Value Plan Q4 2024 - Q1 2025 Bridge Proposal and Discussion

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Hive Students Hub shirts at the Ghana Youth Tech Summit

We wish to open this post by asking everyone to please submit your 2025 strategy ideas here. Currently we are working on the year-end reports for Value Plan which are still being developed. Several Hive community members who are not a direct part of the project but have niche professional expertise are assisting.

We were hoping that the Q4 budget would eliminate the usual bridge, which is this proposal, but due to new opportunities that did not happen. We prefer to underestimate expenses and optimize all budgets (save and cut) rather than overestimate them and be more flexible with the budgets.

As always, your Value Plan project managers are @lordbutterfly, @guiltyparties and @crimsonclad. The key holders are @theycallmedan, @smooth, @guiltyparties, @crimsonclad and @blocktrades.

This proposal seeks 105,000 HBD for the 2024-2025 bridge.

Key Financials

Rally Car

The original rally car was sold last week. The funds from the sale are in Euro and will go primarily into Monaco in order to avoid any conversion costs.

To use a limited budget in the most economical manner we are looking at three races for the year. These races have months between them, allowing for due preparation. This discussion is best for the 2025 planning post that will come out next month, after feedback has been gathered and processed in conjunction with organizational planning already underway. The considered races are Monaco (Monte Carlo), Italy/Portugal (only one), and the CER.

Monaco - This is the flagship of all WRC rallies and the main one to attend. A Hive promotional side event is in the works. This race takes place at the end of January but is set up towards the end of November. This is the race that is covered by the sale. The costs of the side-event remain unknown at this time due to ongoing planning with a partner. Since the side-event is a pilot project, they are to be kept as low as possible.

Krolestwo

Krolestwo is the first VP-related activity that, due to its maturity and high level of professional organization, became suitable for its own proposal which included the additional cost of salaries (under VP all operations are volunteer-run). The Hive community so far has declined that level of investment. Krolestwo promotional activities will continue at the reduced costs with volunteers as usual.

Hive Legal Opinion

This is documentation that supports listings, partnerships and Hive's success in promotional events, primarily in the US market. It is four separate components which are all part of the general legal opinion package that we are presently lacking.

The cost of the documents, which are mandated to be professionally compiled, audited and notarized, is a known sum of 55,000 HBD. This bill was already expected to have come out earlier in the year but has been delayed due to the scope of work. Due to the shift in timing, the funds that were earmarked for it in prior months were repurposed for pilot events, including the Miami Art Week opportunity. Both initiatives are geared towards re-opening the US market for existing and new Hive members. This is a tremendously-challenging undertaking that will open up new opportunities that were denied to us due to our decentralized nature.

The funds for this initiative have been earmarked as part of the previous budget but repurposed for the Miami Art Week initiative (which had to be paid with urgency, see section below).

Upcoming End of Year Activities

Smaller and ongoing activities are not listed at this time due to the fact that they are subject to change, being completed or being cancelled depending on various factors beyond our immediate control. Static activities such as Vibes will continue as usual.

We are supporting the main activities below with some organizational facts. Please let us know if you find these helpful. Note that some of these costs have been filled already due to timing needs/vendors/partners.

Hive Cup

This is an annual event that is carried out in conjunction with a co-sponsor who donates the physical space and set-up costs to it, Los Aviadores in Maracay, Venezuela. This year the event will have a B2B focus, particularly when it comes to onboarding businesses in the mall, as it gives us an opportunity to directly engage with them.

Contract: Yes (non-monetary)
Audience: Local, Public, 1500
Partners: Yes
Co-sponsors: Yes

Miami Art Week VC Event

A pilot event for the end of the year, the Miami Art Week will hos a very specialized and exclusive side-event aimed at investor and partner engagement. The activity will highlight VSC and generally focus on B2B and Hive defi/investment opportunities.

Contract: Yes
Audience: Local, Private, 250
Partners: Yes
Co-sponsors: NA

Hive Community Well Project

By popular demand and request from Ghanaian communities in need following HiveFest, one new well is projected to be installed in the Ashanti Region of Ghana. The well has an expected static cost due to prices being known ahead of time and will deliver access to potable water for approximately 1000 people on a daily basis.

Contract: No
Audience: Local, Public, 4000-5000
Partners: Yes
Co-sponsors: NA

2024-2025 Mixed Activities

Mazer Gaming

Digital promotions are already taking some serious steps this year with our marketing partner Mazer Gaming working to design an engaging multi-phase Twitch streaming promotional initiative for Hive games. It is designed to show a selection of Hive games that can be picked up and played by a streamer without advanced set-up. Note: Crypto Shots and Splinterlands are already selected so far but there is opportunity for other games. A timeline can be developed based on when a game reaches maturity. Games must have a Hive account creation mechanism within them or a landing page set up for the promotion to allow for this. Please reach out to plan out for your game.

Contract: Yes
Audience: Global, 1,500,000-3,000,000+ (impressions)
Partners: No (Hive dapps only)
Co-sponsors: No

Monaco Investor Workshop

This is a side-event that is actively being planned as a pilot project and a template for future side-events. This event is to have a highly-vetted invite list. This is an activity that is in its planning phase only and its viability is still being discussed as we are working in a new geographical area. This event has ties to the Rally Car.

Contract: UK
Audience: Local, Private, 10-30
Partners: Yes
Co-sponsor: Yes

Hive Film Premiere

The Hive-made film 'Water Direct' is to be shown in a European cinema at a special event in the next few months (date TBD). This activity is projected to have a large impact by demonstrating what Hive has achieved through the unique opportunities it presents. It is directly tied with onboarding efforts, Krolestwo, and the Community Well Project.

Contract: UK
Audience: Local, Public
Partners: No
Co-sponsor: No

Administrative Discussion

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Water Direct, the film that outlines the impact of Hive in rural Ghana

Indicators

You may have noticed that we have been trying out different categorization methods and indicators for the VP proposals over time. These are all designed to help evaluate their success and support metrics. The promotional initiatives launched through VP are not stand-alone projects run by unique teams - they are all cross-functional and are by design operate as a cohesive unit to market Hive. What this means is that multiple organizers and team members will contribute to an activity. It also means that we will borrow assets from one project and bring them to another as needed. Most initiatives have 2-3 different team inputs into them.

Maturing and developing our process further supports the primary goal of Hive - decentralization. A professional process is one that can be replicated, sharded, or shared across verticals within Hive irrespective of what they are. The purpose of this process is optimization. We want to ensure all work done is value-added work as VP has a valuable donation of time that our community members dedicate to it. VP also has the input of communal funds through the DHF, which demand efficiency and effectiveness of use.

DHF Compatibility

Many have asked why Hive promotional projects are handled by the VP budget rather than being part of the standard DHF proposal voting system. The above section may have answered part of your question but if it did not, here are a few points to consider:

  • Promotional opportunities often come up fast, sometimes 48 hour notice, which does not leave enough time to write up and get sufficient visibility on a proposal.
  • The actual costs are not known at the time of engagement as we negotiate down and adjust the scope.
  • Many events are cancelled during negotiation if the organizing company refuses to respectfully cooperate or treat Hive with the same level of consideration as its centralized competitors. For example, if competitor speakers are offered complimentary speaking spots but we are not. Sometimes, exigent circumstances beyond our control prevent our participation. For example, if Hive cannot deliver a presentation on the main stage, we will not find value in paying for a sponsorship.
  • Activities drastically change mid-activity fairly often due various circumstances, such as inclement weather.
  • Fixed costs projects are ones with contracts signed; once a contract is signed we are mandated to pay. These are typically conference sponsorships or other initiatives where documents are necessary and are outside of our control. Payment is mandatory upon signing and all deliverables and responsibilities of both the organizing company and Hive are clearly listed.
  • Financial disclosure is often not publicly permitted by vendors prior to the event taking place. This is typically because Hive has negotiated a lower price than what other exhibitors are paying.

Plug-In Proposals (Update)

This being said, a template for Plug-In Proposals (that were announced earlier in the year) is in the works and will be released soon. If you missed it, Plug-In Proposals are proposals where the promotional initiative is suitable for a separate proposal but it is still meant to follow the VP method. Plug-In Proposals are still mandated to create spreadsheets with individual line items for all expenditures, keep records, and stay within the scope.
There are two types of Plug-In Proposals:

  1. A full proposal that collaborates with VP and has shared budget elements but has a project team which handles the funds.
  2. A connected proposal which has VP as the beneficiary (most will be this).

Both of these will be discussed in-depth in the upcoming strategy release. We need your input into the strategy document and if you have a stand-alone opinion on Plug-In Proposals, please add it below. Keep in mind that professionalism, optimization and efficiency are key points to consider when it comes to all proposals.

Proposal

The total of this proposal is 105,000 HBD. Out of these, 55,000 HBD is to be spent on legal documents, as describe above. The bridge amount for other promotional activities is 50,000 HBD.

Thank you for your attention,

The Value Plan Team



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Receipt and invoices matter to the hive public. Why is it for it being ignored? And why is questioning it being met with with DV, denial, evading the question, etc?

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Why is reporting and accounting not included in the proposal

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Because there is something malignant and manipulative happening here.

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ye I mean I just don't know about this whole system lol

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There's a lot of that going on. No one knows wtf is going on and yet most pretend to, while at the same time saying nothing about themselves being robbed. Some of those want to leave, are leaving or have left or pretending to be something just to farm rewards.

By all means, if you want to set the example within the system, stake up enough to move big waves and vote accordingly to your compás and speak your mind on the issues.

Then of course theirs the more deadly penguin way. Use humor and truth mixed and point out it's flaws.

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Would be really nice to have links of receipts and evidence of performance. The text is well written but needs backing, specially for people who don't follow the project closely.

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For my side of things, if theres any concern, my DMs are open (not for everyone, but for most people😅) .
Ill be happy to share what im doing, future plans are. If theres any particular payment you have a legit problem with, etc. I cant share confidential contracts or information but Im sure I can provide enough of a satisfactory response.

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Will all supported projects have to come up with defined KPIs and deliverables, and then assessed based on how them reach the goals? To make it more business-like, as DHF is basically an invesrment fund?

People would feel less like throwing money away, as the most supported comment suggests.

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We ask, why doesn't anyone do anything about these bad downvotes on Hive?

Very alarming situation on Hive: Misuse of power, fake interactions, and abuse of downvoting we've spoken up about the abuse of power on Hive, only to be downvoted and spoken to poorly.

Themarkymark and others are misusing their power, with Blocktrades delegating Hive power to Buildawhale and Usainvote.

The marky mark need drugs

livinguktaiwan (79)in HiveFest • 2 days ago
He would never survive an hour at HiveFest now 🔪🔪🔪

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@livinguktaiwan/re-slobberchops-skc63a

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@slobberchops/re-livinguktaiwan-skc5h1

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We want to address the issue of downvoting. It has caused pain to many people, and we want to make sure it doesn't happen again reply to @jacobtothe

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We hope that those who genuinely care about Hive will reconsider their actions, as continuing down this path could inadvertently harm innocent users who are unaware of these issues

lol the Marky mark keeps dreaming

There's been a notable increase in frustration and concern among many users

Reply 2 @crimsonclad You may consider yourself clever

Reply to @crimsonclad

Consider revising the value plan, as it's not providing significant benefits to HIVE

The Value Plan, as it stands, seems to be a one-sided relationship with the HIVE platform, where the benefits are one-way

Actions indeed speak louder than words, a fact we've all observed individuals may talk a good game, a whole lot of shit, but their actions often expose their genuine nature LOL

We consider it unwise to engage in harmful actions, even if you think you can escape the repercussions

https://hive.blog/politics/@jacobtothe/re-bpcvoter1-shjdc8

The Hive Police aka Hivewatchers, are the real heroes of Hive LOL, aren't they?

Feast your eyes on Hive's trending page, what a load of trash

LoL it's the Hivewatchers Hive Police, dishing out orders like a bakery LOL! Folks, do what you want with your Hive power, just as you please. And you, Hivewatchers, downvote away, but remember, judgment day's coming

Harry fam We're just here, laughing at the shenanigans on Hive! Sure, our content's getting downvoted, but hey, it's all part of the game LOL

https://hive.blog/hive-158694/@hivewatchers/shhnhs

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On Hive, there's a user who frequently burns a significant amount of Hive LOL with his own accounts

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it's so, so concerning to see Blocktrades delegating 2+ million Hive power to Buildawhale, and Buildawhale is downvoting legitimate content

We began sharing factual information following unwarranted downvotes on Hive it's all in the transactions

Upon examining our posts, you will notice they have been downvoted, and we've been labeled as scammers and spammers, which we find amusing. We consistently share new content

Once again, we ask why is our legit content being downvoted on Hive and what is the reason behind it. Hivewatchers ADM spaminator steemcleaners guiltyparties logic

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Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: 25 days ago
Total HP: 15,283.568
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000
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The Marky mark

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Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: a month ago
Total HP: 13,913.812
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

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Usainvote

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Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 20, 2024
Total HP: 7,026.082
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

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Apeminingclub

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Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 22, 2024
Total HP: 28.306
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

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Gogreenbuddy

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Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 15, 2024
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Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

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Downvoters we've got to ask, what's the joy in downvoting, huh? It just shows how down in the dumps you are! Remember, Themarkymark himself has been downvoted in the past

Funny seeing how much power a Hiver with mental health issues wields! And talk about support, Blocktrades is like his trusty sidekick LOL

Many question the impact of downvoting and the role of certain Top Hivers, including Themarkymark who abuses his power, many express disappointment about the lack of response from those in positions of authority NO HELP.

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Withdraw vesting from @buildawhale to @ipromote4513.185 HIVE
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We tried this already and @lordbutterfly has been the only one with response to such questions with hostility and brain dead remarks.

https://ecency.com/life/@valued-customer/valueplan-strategy

Check the comments thoroughly.

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Forgive me this remark, but this thing is just too silly to skip over - yes, it seems that he was like that in comments - but have you tried like he said - DMs?

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To get the same answers? Receipts and invoices are not private information in this case and those things don't reveal private information.

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Yes yes, I of course understand. You seem to have missed the joke part of my suggestion, I should have made it more obvious, sorry, will do better next time :)

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Dont think DMs will work for him. 😂
Might for someone else. Again... these are contracts that are shown to a number of trustworthy people with stake that understand legal stuff. Payments, just like the one above GP posted are generally useless. They can be edited, they show nothing.

Heres my Binance transaction for Bitbasel next month.

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Its never about receipts, invoices or anything. Its about feeling important and being able to talk shit and getting high fives for talking shit as an unproductive member of a decentralized community where anyone can contribute.
Fight the power! Its all bullshit. Some people will never be satisfied no matter what you post. No amount of proof is ever enough for a conspiracy theorist.

But if you call me a liar, claim i commit fraud, threaten me with FBI and Guantanamo bay then you get a "go fuck yourself."

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Thank you for replying! I don't want to start another round of heated discussion, I just wanted to make some fun re:DMs and didn't expect you back :)

Thanks for calm(er) words and also for this image too! You totally surprised me, I got an impression you wouldn't feel like doing anything in context of that subject, especially showing anything financials.

I know, I see that, details are blacked out, I can already imagine/hear/guess/etc how someone else can point out that it's useless - but personally I take it as a good sign, instead of just slamming the door and ending the thread.

And at the same time, I don't want to ask you for showing more/etc. I agree with others that some transparency or verifiability (if that's even a word) would be great here, but someone (guiltyparties?) already said that a legal-level financial review is now being, or is soon going to be prepared, and will be made public - and that sounds fine IMHO.

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We ask, why doesn't anyone do anything about these bad downvotes on Hive?

Very alarming situation on Hive: Misuse of power, fake interactions, and abuse of downvoting we've spoken up about the abuse of power on Hive, only to be downvoted and spoken to poorly.

Themarkymark and others are misusing their power, with Blocktrades delegating Hive power to Buildawhale and Usainvote.

The marky mark need drugs

livinguktaiwan (79)in HiveFest • 2 days ago
He would never survive an hour at HiveFest now 🔪🔪🔪

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@livinguktaiwan/re-slobberchops-skc63a

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@slobberchops/re-livinguktaiwan-skc5h1

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We want to address the issue of downvoting. It has caused pain to many people, and we want to make sure it doesn't happen again reply to @jacobtothe

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We hope that those who genuinely care about Hive will reconsider their actions, as continuing down this path could inadvertently harm innocent users who are unaware of these issues

lol the Marky mark keeps dreaming

There's been a notable increase in frustration and concern among many users

Reply 2 @crimsonclad You may consider yourself clever

Reply to @crimsonclad

Consider revising the value plan, as it's not providing significant benefits to HIVE

The Value Plan, as it stands, seems to be a one-sided relationship with the HIVE platform, where the benefits are one-way

Actions indeed speak louder than words, a fact we've all observed individuals may talk a good game, a whole lot of shit, but their actions often expose their genuine nature LOL

We consider it unwise to engage in harmful actions, even if you think you can escape the repercussions

https://hive.blog/politics/@jacobtothe/re-bpcvoter1-shjdc8

The Hive Police aka Hivewatchers, are the real heroes of Hive LOL, aren't they?

Feast your eyes on Hive's trending page, what a load of trash

LoL it's the Hivewatchers Hive Police, dishing out orders like a bakery LOL! Folks, do what you want with your Hive power, just as you please. And you, Hivewatchers, downvote away, but remember, judgment day's coming

Harry fam We're just here, laughing at the shenanigans on Hive! Sure, our content's getting downvoted, but hey, it's all part of the game LOL

https://hive.blog/hive-158694/@hivewatchers/shhnhs

adm [-]
meesterboom [-]
steemcleaners [-]
jacobtothe [-]
logic [-]
chekohler [-]
b00m [-]
celestegray [-]
citizensmith [-]
sazbird [-]
technicalside [-]
bagpuss [-]
vxn666 [-]
spaminator [-]
meestemboom [-]
ihal0001 [-]
tillmea [-]
meesterleo [-]
meesterbrain [-]
unclefunker [-]
and 1 more

https://hive.blog/hivewatchers/@bpcvoter/shqkqc

On Hive, there's a user who frequently burns a significant amount of Hive LOL with his own accounts

How To Fool An Entire Population

it's so, so concerning to see Blocktrades delegating 2+ million Hive power to Buildawhale, and Buildawhale is downvoting legitimate content

We began sharing factual information following unwarranted downvotes on Hive it's all in the transactions

Upon examining our posts, you will notice they have been downvoted, and we've been labeled as scammers and spammers, which we find amusing. We consistently share new content

Once again, we ask why is our legit content being downvoted on Hive and what is the reason behind it. Hivewatchers ADM spaminator steemcleaners guiltyparties logic

We have Hive witnesses farming Hive, self-voting, operating comment farms, and self-funding projects with community resources

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@blockheadgames/activities

https://peakd.com/@hiveauctions/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@meritocracy/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@jacobtothe/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@leovoter/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@upmyvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/activities

Let's delve into the Builda whale farm on the Hive, Gogreenbuddy, who is also colloquially known as the Marky mark USAINVOTE UPMYVOTE IPROMOTE and 100's more if not thousands

Buildawhale farm

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: 25 days ago
Total HP: 15,283.568
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000
https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

The Marky mark

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: a month ago
Total HP: 13,913.812
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

Usainvote

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 20, 2024
Total HP: 7,026.082
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

Apeminingclub

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 22, 2024
Total HP: 28.306
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

Gogreenbuddy

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 15, 2024
Total HP: 1,960.063
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

#thedarksideofhive

https://www.publish0x.com/the-dark-side-of-hive

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/who-is-cashing-out

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/we-exposed-the-buildawhale-comment-and-its-unfortunate-to-note-that-the-issue-persists-we-have-observed-that-this-individual-i

https://www.bilpcoin.com/undefined/@bpcvoter1/zagi

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/two-years-ago

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

I'm serious, turn yourself in before you turn postal. Get the help you need. No one should suffer like this.

https://peakd.com/inleo/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-skbzej

Downvoters we've got to ask, what's the joy in downvoting, huh? It just shows how down in the dumps you are! Remember, Themarkymark himself has been downvoted in the past

Funny seeing how much power a Hiver with mental health issues wields! And talk about support, Blocktrades is like his trusty sidekick LOL

Many question the impact of downvoting and the role of certain Top Hivers, including Themarkymark who abuses his power, many express disappointment about the lack of response from those in positions of authority NO HELP.

Withdraw vesting from @poshbot to @ipromote0.921 HIVE
Oct 27, 2021

https://peakd.com/@ipromote/wallet

https://peakd.com/bpc/@bpcvoter2/the-hive-police-are-doing-a-disservice-to-the-hive-community-by-farming-hive-and-turning-a-blind-eye-to-the-real-spammers-and

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-believe-many-top-hivers-are-struggling-with-mental-health-issues-addiction-and-personal-problems

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/downvotes-on-hive-should-be-used-for-their-intended-purpose-not-as-a-tool-for-the-hive-whales-to-abuse-or-manipulate

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-have-made-it-clear-that-if-the-downvoting-continues-bilpcoin-and-others-are-prepared-to-delve-deeper-and-share-more

https://peakd.com/hive-187189/@bpcvoter3/hello-community-did-you-know-alpha-account-belongs-to-blocktrades-wife-wtf

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/we-started-investigating-after-being-wrongly-downvoted-we-spoke-with-hive-blurt-steem-users-and-others-who-are-following-our

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/many-hive-community-members-are-expressing-their-concerns-about-the-downvoting-trend-which-we-and-they-believe-is-detrimental-to

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-funny-how-you-can-try-to-lie-on-hive-where-every-transaction-is-public-to-all-which-makes-it-quite-dumb-to-deny-or-deflect

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-quite-funny-to-observe-the-behavior-of-individuals-when-they-find-themselves-in-a-situation-where-their-actions-are-exposed

Buildawhale downvoting good content, self-voting comments powering down funds that are then sent to Ipromote and then the alpha account controlled by Blocktrades' wife doesn't look good and raises questions about the transparency and fairness of Hive.

https://www.reddit.com/r/stoptheabuseonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhalefarmonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhale

https://www.reddit.com/r/Thedarksideofhive

https://hive.blog/created/bpc

https://peakd.com/created/bilpcoin

https://ecency.com/created/bilpcoin

https://www.bilpcoin.com/created

STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM

Posted using Bilpcoin

Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote0.000 HIVE
10 days ago
Withdraw vesting from @proposalalert to @ipromote1.191 HIVE
10 days ago

STOP THE ABUSE !DOOK STOP THE SMOKING !WEED STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM @GOGREENBUDDY !LOL 2

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/wallet

Sent to gogreenbuddy-7.195 HIVE
Sep 2, 2023

Withdraw vesting from @buildawhale to @ipromote4513.185 HIVE
12 days ago

Received: 2,320,284 HP
@blocktrades 2,320,227 HP Aug 16, 2020
@nwjordan 24 HP May 27, 2018
@gillianlienmap 23 HP Aug 18, 2020
@epicgames 6 HP Jul 2, 2019
@drax

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/wallet

111155544433333

nmbm

Posted using Bilpcoin

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Look at that shit @bpcvoter3, you need more DOOK Tokens!
You need to Stake at least 2500 DOOK.
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Learn all about this shit in the toilet paper! 💩

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We ask, why doesn't anyone do anything about these bad downvotes on Hive?

Very alarming situation on Hive: Misuse of power, fake interactions, and abuse of downvoting we've spoken up about the abuse of power on Hive, only to be downvoted and spoken to poorly.

Themarkymark and others are misusing their power, with Blocktrades delegating Hive power to Buildawhale and Usainvote.

The marky mark need drugs

livinguktaiwan (79)in HiveFest • 2 days ago
He would never survive an hour at HiveFest now 🔪🔪🔪

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@livinguktaiwan/re-slobberchops-skc63a

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@slobberchops/re-livinguktaiwan-skc5h1

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We want to address the issue of downvoting. It has caused pain to many people, and we want to make sure it doesn't happen again reply to @jacobtothe

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We hope that those who genuinely care about Hive will reconsider their actions, as continuing down this path could inadvertently harm innocent users who are unaware of these issues

lol the Marky mark keeps dreaming

There's been a notable increase in frustration and concern among many users

Reply 2 @crimsonclad You may consider yourself clever

Reply to @crimsonclad

Consider revising the value plan, as it's not providing significant benefits to HIVE

The Value Plan, as it stands, seems to be a one-sided relationship with the HIVE platform, where the benefits are one-way

Actions indeed speak louder than words, a fact we've all observed individuals may talk a good game, a whole lot of shit, but their actions often expose their genuine nature LOL

We consider it unwise to engage in harmful actions, even if you think you can escape the repercussions

https://hive.blog/politics/@jacobtothe/re-bpcvoter1-shjdc8

The Hive Police aka Hivewatchers, are the real heroes of Hive LOL, aren't they?

Feast your eyes on Hive's trending page, what a load of trash

LoL it's the Hivewatchers Hive Police, dishing out orders like a bakery LOL! Folks, do what you want with your Hive power, just as you please. And you, Hivewatchers, downvote away, but remember, judgment day's coming

Harry fam We're just here, laughing at the shenanigans on Hive! Sure, our content's getting downvoted, but hey, it's all part of the game LOL

https://hive.blog/hive-158694/@hivewatchers/shhnhs

adm [-]
meesterboom [-]
steemcleaners [-]
jacobtothe [-]
logic [-]
chekohler [-]
b00m [-]
celestegray [-]
citizensmith [-]
sazbird [-]
technicalside [-]
bagpuss [-]
vxn666 [-]
spaminator [-]
meestemboom [-]
ihal0001 [-]
tillmea [-]
meesterleo [-]
meesterbrain [-]
unclefunker [-]
and 1 more

https://hive.blog/hivewatchers/@bpcvoter/shqkqc

On Hive, there's a user who frequently burns a significant amount of Hive LOL with his own accounts

How To Fool An Entire Population

it's so, so concerning to see Blocktrades delegating 2+ million Hive power to Buildawhale, and Buildawhale is downvoting legitimate content

We began sharing factual information following unwarranted downvotes on Hive it's all in the transactions

Upon examining our posts, you will notice they have been downvoted, and we've been labeled as scammers and spammers, which we find amusing. We consistently share new content

Once again, we ask why is our legit content being downvoted on Hive and what is the reason behind it. Hivewatchers ADM spaminator steemcleaners guiltyparties logic

We have Hive witnesses farming Hive, self-voting, operating comment farms, and self-funding projects with community resources

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@blockheadgames/activities

https://peakd.com/@hiveauctions/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@meritocracy/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@jacobtothe/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@leovoter/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@upmyvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/activities

Let's delve into the Builda whale farm on the Hive, Gogreenbuddy, who is also colloquially known as the Marky mark USAINVOTE UPMYVOTE IPROMOTE and 100's more if not thousands

Buildawhale farm

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: 25 days ago
Total HP: 15,283.568
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000
https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

The Marky mark

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: a month ago
Total HP: 13,913.812
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

Usainvote

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 20, 2024
Total HP: 7,026.082
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

Apeminingclub

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 22, 2024
Total HP: 28.306
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

Gogreenbuddy

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 15, 2024
Total HP: 1,960.063
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

#thedarksideofhive

https://www.publish0x.com/the-dark-side-of-hive

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/who-is-cashing-out

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/we-exposed-the-buildawhale-comment-and-its-unfortunate-to-note-that-the-issue-persists-we-have-observed-that-this-individual-i

https://www.bilpcoin.com/undefined/@bpcvoter1/zagi

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/two-years-ago

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

I'm serious, turn yourself in before you turn postal. Get the help you need. No one should suffer like this.

https://peakd.com/inleo/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-skbzej

Downvoters we've got to ask, what's the joy in downvoting, huh? It just shows how down in the dumps you are! Remember, Themarkymark himself has been downvoted in the past

Funny seeing how much power a Hiver with mental health issues wields! And talk about support, Blocktrades is like his trusty sidekick LOL

Many question the impact of downvoting and the role of certain Top Hivers, including Themarkymark who abuses his power, many express disappointment about the lack of response from those in positions of authority NO HELP.

Withdraw vesting from @poshbot to @ipromote0.921 HIVE
Oct 27, 2021

https://peakd.com/@ipromote/wallet

https://peakd.com/bpc/@bpcvoter2/the-hive-police-are-doing-a-disservice-to-the-hive-community-by-farming-hive-and-turning-a-blind-eye-to-the-real-spammers-and

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-believe-many-top-hivers-are-struggling-with-mental-health-issues-addiction-and-personal-problems

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/downvotes-on-hive-should-be-used-for-their-intended-purpose-not-as-a-tool-for-the-hive-whales-to-abuse-or-manipulate

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-have-made-it-clear-that-if-the-downvoting-continues-bilpcoin-and-others-are-prepared-to-delve-deeper-and-share-more

https://peakd.com/hive-187189/@bpcvoter3/hello-community-did-you-know-alpha-account-belongs-to-blocktrades-wife-wtf

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/we-started-investigating-after-being-wrongly-downvoted-we-spoke-with-hive-blurt-steem-users-and-others-who-are-following-our

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/many-hive-community-members-are-expressing-their-concerns-about-the-downvoting-trend-which-we-and-they-believe-is-detrimental-to

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-funny-how-you-can-try-to-lie-on-hive-where-every-transaction-is-public-to-all-which-makes-it-quite-dumb-to-deny-or-deflect

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-quite-funny-to-observe-the-behavior-of-individuals-when-they-find-themselves-in-a-situation-where-their-actions-are-exposed

Buildawhale downvoting good content, self-voting comments powering down funds that are then sent to Ipromote and then the alpha account controlled by Blocktrades' wife doesn't look good and raises questions about the transparency and fairness of Hive.

https://www.reddit.com/r/stoptheabuseonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhalefarmonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhale

https://www.reddit.com/r/Thedarksideofhive

https://hive.blog/created/bpc

https://peakd.com/created/bilpcoin

https://ecency.com/created/bilpcoin

https://www.bilpcoin.com/created

STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM

Posted using Bilpcoin

Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote0.000 HIVE
10 days ago
Withdraw vesting from @proposalalert to @ipromote1.191 HIVE
10 days ago

STOP THE ABUSE !DOOK STOP THE SMOKING !WEED STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM @GOGREENBUDDY !LOL 2

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/wallet

Sent to gogreenbuddy-7.195 HIVE
Sep 2, 2023

Withdraw vesting from @buildawhale to @ipromote4513.185 HIVE
12 days ago

Received: 2,320,284 HP
@blocktrades 2,320,227 HP Aug 16, 2020
@nwjordan 24 HP May 27, 2018
@gillianlienmap 23 HP Aug 18, 2020
@epicgames 6 HP Jul 2, 2019
@drax

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/wallet

111155544433333

mnmnmbm

Posted using Bilpcoin

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$2,749,999.35 dollars wasted by Value Plan so far.

What's another $105K? Hive is thriving we got plenty to throw away.

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could not agree more.
and the people controlling the account. WTF. serious.

Stop the madness

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We ask, why doesn't anyone do anything about these bad downvotes on Hive?

Very alarming situation on Hive: Misuse of power, fake interactions, and abuse of downvoting we've spoken up about the abuse of power on Hive, only to be downvoted and spoken to poorly.

Themarkymark and others are misusing their power, with Blocktrades delegating Hive power to Buildawhale and Usainvote.

The marky mark need drugs

livinguktaiwan (79)in HiveFest • 2 days ago
He would never survive an hour at HiveFest now 🔪🔪🔪

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@livinguktaiwan/re-slobberchops-skc63a

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@slobberchops/re-livinguktaiwan-skc5h1

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We want to address the issue of downvoting. It has caused pain to many people, and we want to make sure it doesn't happen again reply to @jacobtothe

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We hope that those who genuinely care about Hive will reconsider their actions, as continuing down this path could inadvertently harm innocent users who are unaware of these issues

lol the Marky mark keeps dreaming

There's been a notable increase in frustration and concern among many users

Reply 2 @crimsonclad You may consider yourself clever

Reply to @crimsonclad

Consider revising the value plan, as it's not providing significant benefits to HIVE

The Value Plan, as it stands, seems to be a one-sided relationship with the HIVE platform, where the benefits are one-way

Actions indeed speak louder than words, a fact we've all observed individuals may talk a good game, a whole lot of shit, but their actions often expose their genuine nature LOL

We consider it unwise to engage in harmful actions, even if you think you can escape the repercussions

https://hive.blog/politics/@jacobtothe/re-bpcvoter1-shjdc8

The Hive Police aka Hivewatchers, are the real heroes of Hive LOL, aren't they?

Feast your eyes on Hive's trending page, what a load of trash

LoL it's the Hivewatchers Hive Police, dishing out orders like a bakery LOL! Folks, do what you want with your Hive power, just as you please. And you, Hivewatchers, downvote away, but remember, judgment day's coming

Harry fam We're just here, laughing at the shenanigans on Hive! Sure, our content's getting downvoted, but hey, it's all part of the game LOL

https://hive.blog/hive-158694/@hivewatchers/shhnhs

adm [-]
meesterboom [-]
steemcleaners [-]
jacobtothe [-]
logic [-]
chekohler [-]
b00m [-]
celestegray [-]
citizensmith [-]
sazbird [-]
technicalside [-]
bagpuss [-]
vxn666 [-]
spaminator [-]
meestemboom [-]
ihal0001 [-]
tillmea [-]
meesterleo [-]
meesterbrain [-]
unclefunker [-]
and 1 more

https://hive.blog/hivewatchers/@bpcvoter/shqkqc

On Hive, there's a user who frequently burns a significant amount of Hive LOL with his own accounts

How To Fool An Entire Population

it's so, so concerning to see Blocktrades delegating 2+ million Hive power to Buildawhale, and Buildawhale is downvoting legitimate content

We began sharing factual information following unwarranted downvotes on Hive it's all in the transactions

Upon examining our posts, you will notice they have been downvoted, and we've been labeled as scammers and spammers, which we find amusing. We consistently share new content

Once again, we ask why is our legit content being downvoted on Hive and what is the reason behind it. Hivewatchers ADM spaminator steemcleaners guiltyparties logic

We have Hive witnesses farming Hive, self-voting, operating comment farms, and self-funding projects with community resources

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@blockheadgames/activities

https://peakd.com/@hiveauctions/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@meritocracy/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@jacobtothe/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@leovoter/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@upmyvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/activities

Let's delve into the Builda whale farm on the Hive, Gogreenbuddy, who is also colloquially known as the Marky mark USAINVOTE UPMYVOTE IPROMOTE and 100's more if not thousands

Buildawhale farm

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: 25 days ago
Total HP: 15,283.568
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000
https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

The Marky mark

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: a month ago
Total HP: 13,913.812
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

Usainvote

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 20, 2024
Total HP: 7,026.082
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

Apeminingclub

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 22, 2024
Total HP: 28.306
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

Gogreenbuddy

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 15, 2024
Total HP: 1,960.063
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

#thedarksideofhive

https://www.publish0x.com/the-dark-side-of-hive

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/who-is-cashing-out

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/we-exposed-the-buildawhale-comment-and-its-unfortunate-to-note-that-the-issue-persists-we-have-observed-that-this-individual-i

https://www.bilpcoin.com/undefined/@bpcvoter1/zagi

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/two-years-ago

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

I'm serious, turn yourself in before you turn postal. Get the help you need. No one should suffer like this.

https://peakd.com/inleo/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-skbzej

Downvoters we've got to ask, what's the joy in downvoting, huh? It just shows how down in the dumps you are! Remember, Themarkymark himself has been downvoted in the past

Funny seeing how much power a Hiver with mental health issues wields! And talk about support, Blocktrades is like his trusty sidekick LOL

Many question the impact of downvoting and the role of certain Top Hivers, including Themarkymark who abuses his power, many express disappointment about the lack of response from those in positions of authority NO HELP.

Withdraw vesting from @poshbot to @ipromote0.921 HIVE
Oct 27, 2021

https://peakd.com/@ipromote/wallet

https://peakd.com/bpc/@bpcvoter2/the-hive-police-are-doing-a-disservice-to-the-hive-community-by-farming-hive-and-turning-a-blind-eye-to-the-real-spammers-and

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-believe-many-top-hivers-are-struggling-with-mental-health-issues-addiction-and-personal-problems

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/downvotes-on-hive-should-be-used-for-their-intended-purpose-not-as-a-tool-for-the-hive-whales-to-abuse-or-manipulate

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-have-made-it-clear-that-if-the-downvoting-continues-bilpcoin-and-others-are-prepared-to-delve-deeper-and-share-more

https://peakd.com/hive-187189/@bpcvoter3/hello-community-did-you-know-alpha-account-belongs-to-blocktrades-wife-wtf

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/we-started-investigating-after-being-wrongly-downvoted-we-spoke-with-hive-blurt-steem-users-and-others-who-are-following-our

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/many-hive-community-members-are-expressing-their-concerns-about-the-downvoting-trend-which-we-and-they-believe-is-detrimental-to

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-funny-how-you-can-try-to-lie-on-hive-where-every-transaction-is-public-to-all-which-makes-it-quite-dumb-to-deny-or-deflect

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-quite-funny-to-observe-the-behavior-of-individuals-when-they-find-themselves-in-a-situation-where-their-actions-are-exposed

Buildawhale downvoting good content, self-voting comments powering down funds that are then sent to Ipromote and then the alpha account controlled by Blocktrades' wife doesn't look good and raises questions about the transparency and fairness of Hive.

https://www.reddit.com/r/stoptheabuseonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhalefarmonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhale

https://www.reddit.com/r/Thedarksideofhive

https://hive.blog/created/bpc

https://peakd.com/created/bilpcoin

https://ecency.com/created/bilpcoin

https://www.bilpcoin.com/created

STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM

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Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote0.000 HIVE
10 days ago
Withdraw vesting from @proposalalert to @ipromote1.191 HIVE
10 days ago

STOP THE ABUSE !DOOK STOP THE SMOKING !WEED STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM @GOGREENBUDDY !LOL 2

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/wallet

Sent to gogreenbuddy-7.195 HIVE
Sep 2, 2023

Withdraw vesting from @buildawhale to @ipromote4513.185 HIVE
12 days ago

Received: 2,320,284 HP
@blocktrades 2,320,227 HP Aug 16, 2020
@nwjordan 24 HP May 27, 2018
@gillianlienmap 23 HP Aug 18, 2020
@epicgames 6 HP Jul 2, 2019
@drax

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/wallet

111155544433333

lololo

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I wonder how is this any different than Stinc programmatic sales back then (other than just different entities). I don't see any ROI for either of these.

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The STINC programmatic selling was brutal but we have a lot of sell pressure with $3M+ / yr in regular scheduled proposals, and Value Plan eating almost $3M on it's own in addition, none of which was well spent. We have hundreds of thousands in proposals that rugged, if not $1M.

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"You could use it to target any dao you didn't like. but i get the message, and I shall be on my way."

I can still give you the code, which is functional. I don't normally log in on this account. you know where to find me if you change your mind.

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We ask, why doesn't anyone do anything about these bad downvotes on Hive?

Very alarming situation on Hive: Misuse of power, fake interactions, and abuse of downvoting we've spoken up about the abuse of power on Hive, only to be downvoted and spoken to poorly.

Themarkymark and others are misusing their power, with Blocktrades delegating Hive power to Buildawhale and Usainvote.

The marky mark need drugs

livinguktaiwan (79)in HiveFest • 2 days ago
He would never survive an hour at HiveFest now 🔪🔪🔪

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@livinguktaiwan/re-slobberchops-skc63a

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@slobberchops/re-livinguktaiwan-skc5h1

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We want to address the issue of downvoting. It has caused pain to many people, and we want to make sure it doesn't happen again reply to @jacobtothe

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We hope that those who genuinely care about Hive will reconsider their actions, as continuing down this path could inadvertently harm innocent users who are unaware of these issues

lol the Marky mark keeps dreaming

There's been a notable increase in frustration and concern among many users

Reply 2 @crimsonclad You may consider yourself clever

Reply to @crimsonclad

Consider revising the value plan, as it's not providing significant benefits to HIVE

The Value Plan, as it stands, seems to be a one-sided relationship with the HIVE platform, where the benefits are one-way

Actions indeed speak louder than words, a fact we've all observed individuals may talk a good game, a whole lot of shit, but their actions often expose their genuine nature LOL

We consider it unwise to engage in harmful actions, even if you think you can escape the repercussions

https://hive.blog/politics/@jacobtothe/re-bpcvoter1-shjdc8

The Hive Police aka Hivewatchers, are the real heroes of Hive LOL, aren't they?

Feast your eyes on Hive's trending page, what a load of trash

LoL it's the Hivewatchers Hive Police, dishing out orders like a bakery LOL! Folks, do what you want with your Hive power, just as you please. And you, Hivewatchers, downvote away, but remember, judgment day's coming

Harry fam We're just here, laughing at the shenanigans on Hive! Sure, our content's getting downvoted, but hey, it's all part of the game LOL

https://hive.blog/hive-158694/@hivewatchers/shhnhs

adm [-]
meesterboom [-]
steemcleaners [-]
jacobtothe [-]
logic [-]
chekohler [-]
b00m [-]
celestegray [-]
citizensmith [-]
sazbird [-]
technicalside [-]
bagpuss [-]
vxn666 [-]
spaminator [-]
meestemboom [-]
ihal0001 [-]
tillmea [-]
meesterleo [-]
meesterbrain [-]
unclefunker [-]
and 1 more

https://hive.blog/hivewatchers/@bpcvoter/shqkqc

On Hive, there's a user who frequently burns a significant amount of Hive LOL with his own accounts

How To Fool An Entire Population

it's so, so concerning to see Blocktrades delegating 2+ million Hive power to Buildawhale, and Buildawhale is downvoting legitimate content

We began sharing factual information following unwarranted downvotes on Hive it's all in the transactions

Upon examining our posts, you will notice they have been downvoted, and we've been labeled as scammers and spammers, which we find amusing. We consistently share new content

Once again, we ask why is our legit content being downvoted on Hive and what is the reason behind it. Hivewatchers ADM spaminator steemcleaners guiltyparties logic

We have Hive witnesses farming Hive, self-voting, operating comment farms, and self-funding projects with community resources

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@blockheadgames/activities

https://peakd.com/@hiveauctions/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@meritocracy/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@jacobtothe/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@leovoter/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@upmyvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/activities

Let's delve into the Builda whale farm on the Hive, Gogreenbuddy, who is also colloquially known as the Marky mark USAINVOTE UPMYVOTE IPROMOTE and 100's more if not thousands

Buildawhale farm

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: 25 days ago
Total HP: 15,283.568
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000
https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

The Marky mark

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: a month ago
Total HP: 13,913.812
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

Usainvote

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 20, 2024
Total HP: 7,026.082
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

Apeminingclub

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 22, 2024
Total HP: 28.306
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

Gogreenbuddy

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 15, 2024
Total HP: 1,960.063
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

#thedarksideofhive

https://www.publish0x.com/the-dark-side-of-hive

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/who-is-cashing-out

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/we-exposed-the-buildawhale-comment-and-its-unfortunate-to-note-that-the-issue-persists-we-have-observed-that-this-individual-i

https://www.bilpcoin.com/undefined/@bpcvoter1/zagi

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/two-years-ago

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

I'm serious, turn yourself in before you turn postal. Get the help you need. No one should suffer like this.

https://peakd.com/inleo/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-skbzej

Downvoters we've got to ask, what's the joy in downvoting, huh? It just shows how down in the dumps you are! Remember, Themarkymark himself has been downvoted in the past

Funny seeing how much power a Hiver with mental health issues wields! And talk about support, Blocktrades is like his trusty sidekick LOL

Many question the impact of downvoting and the role of certain Top Hivers, including Themarkymark who abuses his power, many express disappointment about the lack of response from those in positions of authority NO HELP.

Withdraw vesting from @poshbot to @ipromote0.921 HIVE
Oct 27, 2021

https://peakd.com/@ipromote/wallet

https://peakd.com/bpc/@bpcvoter2/the-hive-police-are-doing-a-disservice-to-the-hive-community-by-farming-hive-and-turning-a-blind-eye-to-the-real-spammers-and

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-believe-many-top-hivers-are-struggling-with-mental-health-issues-addiction-and-personal-problems

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/downvotes-on-hive-should-be-used-for-their-intended-purpose-not-as-a-tool-for-the-hive-whales-to-abuse-or-manipulate

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-have-made-it-clear-that-if-the-downvoting-continues-bilpcoin-and-others-are-prepared-to-delve-deeper-and-share-more

https://peakd.com/hive-187189/@bpcvoter3/hello-community-did-you-know-alpha-account-belongs-to-blocktrades-wife-wtf

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/we-started-investigating-after-being-wrongly-downvoted-we-spoke-with-hive-blurt-steem-users-and-others-who-are-following-our

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/many-hive-community-members-are-expressing-their-concerns-about-the-downvoting-trend-which-we-and-they-believe-is-detrimental-to

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-funny-how-you-can-try-to-lie-on-hive-where-every-transaction-is-public-to-all-which-makes-it-quite-dumb-to-deny-or-deflect

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-quite-funny-to-observe-the-behavior-of-individuals-when-they-find-themselves-in-a-situation-where-their-actions-are-exposed

Buildawhale downvoting good content, self-voting comments powering down funds that are then sent to Ipromote and then the alpha account controlled by Blocktrades' wife doesn't look good and raises questions about the transparency and fairness of Hive.

https://www.reddit.com/r/stoptheabuseonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhalefarmonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhale

https://www.reddit.com/r/Thedarksideofhive

https://hive.blog/created/bpc

https://peakd.com/created/bilpcoin

https://ecency.com/created/bilpcoin

https://www.bilpcoin.com/created

STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM

Posted using Bilpcoin

Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote0.000 HIVE
10 days ago
Withdraw vesting from @proposalalert to @ipromote1.191 HIVE
10 days ago

STOP THE ABUSE !DOOK STOP THE SMOKING !WEED STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM @GOGREENBUDDY !LOL 2

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/wallet

Sent to gogreenbuddy-7.195 HIVE
Sep 2, 2023

Withdraw vesting from @buildawhale to @ipromote4513.185 HIVE
12 days ago

Received: 2,320,284 HP
@blocktrades 2,320,227 HP Aug 16, 2020
@nwjordan 24 HP May 27, 2018
@gillianlienmap 23 HP Aug 18, 2020
@epicgames 6 HP Jul 2, 2019
@drax

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/wallet

111155544433333

bbbvvvvv

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We ask, why doesn't anyone do anything about these bad downvotes on Hive?

Very alarming situation on Hive: Misuse of power, fake interactions, and abuse of downvoting we've spoken up about the abuse of power on Hive, only to be downvoted and spoken to poorly.

Themarkymark and others are misusing their power, with Blocktrades delegating Hive power to Buildawhale and Usainvote.

The marky mark need drugs

livinguktaiwan (79)in HiveFest • 2 days ago
He would never survive an hour at HiveFest now 🔪🔪🔪

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@livinguktaiwan/re-slobberchops-skc63a

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@slobberchops/re-livinguktaiwan-skc5h1

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We want to address the issue of downvoting. It has caused pain to many people, and we want to make sure it doesn't happen again reply to @jacobtothe

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We hope that those who genuinely care about Hive will reconsider their actions, as continuing down this path could inadvertently harm innocent users who are unaware of these issues

lol the Marky mark keeps dreaming

There's been a notable increase in frustration and concern among many users

Reply 2 @crimsonclad You may consider yourself clever

Reply to @crimsonclad

Consider revising the value plan, as it's not providing significant benefits to HIVE

The Value Plan, as it stands, seems to be a one-sided relationship with the HIVE platform, where the benefits are one-way

Actions indeed speak louder than words, a fact we've all observed individuals may talk a good game, a whole lot of shit, but their actions often expose their genuine nature LOL

We consider it unwise to engage in harmful actions, even if you think you can escape the repercussions

https://hive.blog/politics/@jacobtothe/re-bpcvoter1-shjdc8

The Hive Police aka Hivewatchers, are the real heroes of Hive LOL, aren't they?

Feast your eyes on Hive's trending page, what a load of trash

LoL it's the Hivewatchers Hive Police, dishing out orders like a bakery LOL! Folks, do what you want with your Hive power, just as you please. And you, Hivewatchers, downvote away, but remember, judgment day's coming

Harry fam We're just here, laughing at the shenanigans on Hive! Sure, our content's getting downvoted, but hey, it's all part of the game LOL

https://hive.blog/hive-158694/@hivewatchers/shhnhs

adm [-]
meesterboom [-]
steemcleaners [-]
jacobtothe [-]
logic [-]
chekohler [-]
b00m [-]
celestegray [-]
citizensmith [-]
sazbird [-]
technicalside [-]
bagpuss [-]
vxn666 [-]
spaminator [-]
meestemboom [-]
ihal0001 [-]
tillmea [-]
meesterleo [-]
meesterbrain [-]
unclefunker [-]
and 1 more

https://hive.blog/hivewatchers/@bpcvoter/shqkqc

On Hive, there's a user who frequently burns a significant amount of Hive LOL with his own accounts

How To Fool An Entire Population

it's so, so concerning to see Blocktrades delegating 2+ million Hive power to Buildawhale, and Buildawhale is downvoting legitimate content

We began sharing factual information following unwarranted downvotes on Hive it's all in the transactions

Upon examining our posts, you will notice they have been downvoted, and we've been labeled as scammers and spammers, which we find amusing. We consistently share new content

Once again, we ask why is our legit content being downvoted on Hive and what is the reason behind it. Hivewatchers ADM spaminator steemcleaners guiltyparties logic

We have Hive witnesses farming Hive, self-voting, operating comment farms, and self-funding projects with community resources

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@blockheadgames/activities

https://peakd.com/@hiveauctions/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@meritocracy/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@jacobtothe/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@leovoter/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@upmyvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/activities

Let's delve into the Builda whale farm on the Hive, Gogreenbuddy, who is also colloquially known as the Marky mark USAINVOTE UPMYVOTE IPROMOTE and 100's more if not thousands

Buildawhale farm

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: 25 days ago
Total HP: 15,283.568
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000
https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

The Marky mark

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: a month ago
Total HP: 13,913.812
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

Usainvote

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 20, 2024
Total HP: 7,026.082
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

Apeminingclub

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 22, 2024
Total HP: 28.306
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

Gogreenbuddy

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 15, 2024
Total HP: 1,960.063
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

#thedarksideofhive

https://www.publish0x.com/the-dark-side-of-hive

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/who-is-cashing-out

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/we-exposed-the-buildawhale-comment-and-its-unfortunate-to-note-that-the-issue-persists-we-have-observed-that-this-individual-i

https://www.bilpcoin.com/undefined/@bpcvoter1/zagi

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/two-years-ago

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

I'm serious, turn yourself in before you turn postal. Get the help you need. No one should suffer like this.

https://peakd.com/inleo/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-skbzej

Downvoters we've got to ask, what's the joy in downvoting, huh? It just shows how down in the dumps you are! Remember, Themarkymark himself has been downvoted in the past

Funny seeing how much power a Hiver with mental health issues wields! And talk about support, Blocktrades is like his trusty sidekick LOL

Many question the impact of downvoting and the role of certain Top Hivers, including Themarkymark who abuses his power, many express disappointment about the lack of response from those in positions of authority NO HELP.

Withdraw vesting from @poshbot to @ipromote0.921 HIVE
Oct 27, 2021

https://peakd.com/@ipromote/wallet

https://peakd.com/bpc/@bpcvoter2/the-hive-police-are-doing-a-disservice-to-the-hive-community-by-farming-hive-and-turning-a-blind-eye-to-the-real-spammers-and

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-believe-many-top-hivers-are-struggling-with-mental-health-issues-addiction-and-personal-problems

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/downvotes-on-hive-should-be-used-for-their-intended-purpose-not-as-a-tool-for-the-hive-whales-to-abuse-or-manipulate

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-have-made-it-clear-that-if-the-downvoting-continues-bilpcoin-and-others-are-prepared-to-delve-deeper-and-share-more

https://peakd.com/hive-187189/@bpcvoter3/hello-community-did-you-know-alpha-account-belongs-to-blocktrades-wife-wtf

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/we-started-investigating-after-being-wrongly-downvoted-we-spoke-with-hive-blurt-steem-users-and-others-who-are-following-our

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/many-hive-community-members-are-expressing-their-concerns-about-the-downvoting-trend-which-we-and-they-believe-is-detrimental-to

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-funny-how-you-can-try-to-lie-on-hive-where-every-transaction-is-public-to-all-which-makes-it-quite-dumb-to-deny-or-deflect

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-quite-funny-to-observe-the-behavior-of-individuals-when-they-find-themselves-in-a-situation-where-their-actions-are-exposed

Buildawhale downvoting good content, self-voting comments powering down funds that are then sent to Ipromote and then the alpha account controlled by Blocktrades' wife doesn't look good and raises questions about the transparency and fairness of Hive.

https://www.reddit.com/r/stoptheabuseonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhalefarmonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhale

https://www.reddit.com/r/Thedarksideofhive

https://hive.blog/created/bpc

https://peakd.com/created/bilpcoin

https://ecency.com/created/bilpcoin

https://www.bilpcoin.com/created

STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM

Posted using Bilpcoin

Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote0.000 HIVE
10 days ago
Withdraw vesting from @proposalalert to @ipromote1.191 HIVE
10 days ago

STOP THE ABUSE !DOOK STOP THE SMOKING !WEED STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM @GOGREENBUDDY !LOL 2

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/wallet

Sent to gogreenbuddy-7.195 HIVE
Sep 2, 2023

Withdraw vesting from @buildawhale to @ipromote4513.185 HIVE
12 days ago

Received: 2,320,284 HP
@blocktrades 2,320,227 HP Aug 16, 2020
@nwjordan 24 HP May 27, 2018
@gillianlienmap 23 HP Aug 18, 2020
@epicgames 6 HP Jul 2, 2019
@drax

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/wallet

111155544433333

bbbvvvvv

Posted using Bilpcoin

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We ask, why doesn't anyone do anything about these bad downvotes on Hive?

Very alarming situation on Hive: Misuse of power, fake interactions, and abuse of downvoting we've spoken up about the abuse of power on Hive, only to be downvoted and spoken to poorly.

Themarkymark and others are misusing their power, with Blocktrades delegating Hive power to Buildawhale and Usainvote.

The marky mark need drugs

livinguktaiwan (79)in HiveFest • 2 days ago
He would never survive an hour at HiveFest now 🔪🔪🔪

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@livinguktaiwan/re-slobberchops-skc63a

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@slobberchops/re-livinguktaiwan-skc5h1

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We want to address the issue of downvoting. It has caused pain to many people, and we want to make sure it doesn't happen again reply to @jacobtothe

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We hope that those who genuinely care about Hive will reconsider their actions, as continuing down this path could inadvertently harm innocent users who are unaware of these issues

lol the Marky mark keeps dreaming

There's been a notable increase in frustration and concern among many users

Reply 2 @crimsonclad You may consider yourself clever

Reply to @crimsonclad

Consider revising the value plan, as it's not providing significant benefits to HIVE

The Value Plan, as it stands, seems to be a one-sided relationship with the HIVE platform, where the benefits are one-way

Actions indeed speak louder than words, a fact we've all observed individuals may talk a good game, a whole lot of shit, but their actions often expose their genuine nature LOL

We consider it unwise to engage in harmful actions, even if you think you can escape the repercussions

https://hive.blog/politics/@jacobtothe/re-bpcvoter1-shjdc8

The Hive Police aka Hivewatchers, are the real heroes of Hive LOL, aren't they?

Feast your eyes on Hive's trending page, what a load of trash

LoL it's the Hivewatchers Hive Police, dishing out orders like a bakery LOL! Folks, do what you want with your Hive power, just as you please. And you, Hivewatchers, downvote away, but remember, judgment day's coming

Harry fam We're just here, laughing at the shenanigans on Hive! Sure, our content's getting downvoted, but hey, it's all part of the game LOL

https://hive.blog/hive-158694/@hivewatchers/shhnhs

adm [-]
meesterboom [-]
steemcleaners [-]
jacobtothe [-]
logic [-]
chekohler [-]
b00m [-]
celestegray [-]
citizensmith [-]
sazbird [-]
technicalside [-]
bagpuss [-]
vxn666 [-]
spaminator [-]
meestemboom [-]
ihal0001 [-]
tillmea [-]
meesterleo [-]
meesterbrain [-]
unclefunker [-]
and 1 more

https://hive.blog/hivewatchers/@bpcvoter/shqkqc

On Hive, there's a user who frequently burns a significant amount of Hive LOL with his own accounts

How To Fool An Entire Population

it's so, so concerning to see Blocktrades delegating 2+ million Hive power to Buildawhale, and Buildawhale is downvoting legitimate content

We began sharing factual information following unwarranted downvotes on Hive it's all in the transactions

Upon examining our posts, you will notice they have been downvoted, and we've been labeled as scammers and spammers, which we find amusing. We consistently share new content

Once again, we ask why is our legit content being downvoted on Hive and what is the reason behind it. Hivewatchers ADM spaminator steemcleaners guiltyparties logic

We have Hive witnesses farming Hive, self-voting, operating comment farms, and self-funding projects with community resources

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@blockheadgames/activities

https://peakd.com/@hiveauctions/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@meritocracy/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@jacobtothe/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@leovoter/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@upmyvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/activities

Let's delve into the Builda whale farm on the Hive, Gogreenbuddy, who is also colloquially known as the Marky mark USAINVOTE UPMYVOTE IPROMOTE and 100's more if not thousands

Buildawhale farm

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: 25 days ago
Total HP: 15,283.568
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000
https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

The Marky mark

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: a month ago
Total HP: 13,913.812
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

Usainvote

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 20, 2024
Total HP: 7,026.082
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

Apeminingclub

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 22, 2024
Total HP: 28.306
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

Gogreenbuddy

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 15, 2024
Total HP: 1,960.063
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

#thedarksideofhive

https://www.publish0x.com/the-dark-side-of-hive

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/who-is-cashing-out

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/we-exposed-the-buildawhale-comment-and-its-unfortunate-to-note-that-the-issue-persists-we-have-observed-that-this-individual-i

https://www.bilpcoin.com/undefined/@bpcvoter1/zagi

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/two-years-ago

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

I'm serious, turn yourself in before you turn postal. Get the help you need. No one should suffer like this.

https://peakd.com/inleo/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-skbzej

Downvoters we've got to ask, what's the joy in downvoting, huh? It just shows how down in the dumps you are! Remember, Themarkymark himself has been downvoted in the past

Funny seeing how much power a Hiver with mental health issues wields! And talk about support, Blocktrades is like his trusty sidekick LOL

Many question the impact of downvoting and the role of certain Top Hivers, including Themarkymark who abuses his power, many express disappointment about the lack of response from those in positions of authority NO HELP.

Withdraw vesting from @poshbot to @ipromote0.921 HIVE
Oct 27, 2021

https://peakd.com/@ipromote/wallet

https://peakd.com/bpc/@bpcvoter2/the-hive-police-are-doing-a-disservice-to-the-hive-community-by-farming-hive-and-turning-a-blind-eye-to-the-real-spammers-and

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-believe-many-top-hivers-are-struggling-with-mental-health-issues-addiction-and-personal-problems

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/downvotes-on-hive-should-be-used-for-their-intended-purpose-not-as-a-tool-for-the-hive-whales-to-abuse-or-manipulate

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-have-made-it-clear-that-if-the-downvoting-continues-bilpcoin-and-others-are-prepared-to-delve-deeper-and-share-more

https://peakd.com/hive-187189/@bpcvoter3/hello-community-did-you-know-alpha-account-belongs-to-blocktrades-wife-wtf

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/we-started-investigating-after-being-wrongly-downvoted-we-spoke-with-hive-blurt-steem-users-and-others-who-are-following-our

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/many-hive-community-members-are-expressing-their-concerns-about-the-downvoting-trend-which-we-and-they-believe-is-detrimental-to

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-funny-how-you-can-try-to-lie-on-hive-where-every-transaction-is-public-to-all-which-makes-it-quite-dumb-to-deny-or-deflect

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-quite-funny-to-observe-the-behavior-of-individuals-when-they-find-themselves-in-a-situation-where-their-actions-are-exposed

Buildawhale downvoting good content, self-voting comments powering down funds that are then sent to Ipromote and then the alpha account controlled by Blocktrades' wife doesn't look good and raises questions about the transparency and fairness of Hive.

https://www.reddit.com/r/stoptheabuseonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhalefarmonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhale

https://www.reddit.com/r/Thedarksideofhive

https://hive.blog/created/bpc

https://peakd.com/created/bilpcoin

https://ecency.com/created/bilpcoin

https://www.bilpcoin.com/created

STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM

Posted using Bilpcoin

Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote0.000 HIVE
10 days ago
Withdraw vesting from @proposalalert to @ipromote1.191 HIVE
10 days ago

STOP THE ABUSE !DOOK STOP THE SMOKING !WEED STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM @GOGREENBUDDY !LOL 2

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/wallet

Sent to gogreenbuddy-7.195 HIVE
Sep 2, 2023

Withdraw vesting from @buildawhale to @ipromote4513.185 HIVE
12 days ago

Received: 2,320,284 HP
@blocktrades 2,320,227 HP Aug 16, 2020
@nwjordan 24 HP May 27, 2018
@gillianlienmap 23 HP Aug 18, 2020
@epicgames 6 HP Jul 2, 2019
@drax

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/wallet

111155544433333

bbnvnvnvnvn

Posted using Bilpcoin

avatar

We ask, why doesn't anyone do anything about these bad downvotes on Hive?

Very alarming situation on Hive: Misuse of power, fake interactions, and abuse of downvoting we've spoken up about the abuse of power on Hive, only to be downvoted and spoken to poorly.

Themarkymark and others are misusing their power, with Blocktrades delegating Hive power to Buildawhale and Usainvote.

The marky mark need drugs

livinguktaiwan (79)in HiveFest • 2 days ago
He would never survive an hour at HiveFest now 🔪🔪🔪

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@livinguktaiwan/re-slobberchops-skc63a

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@slobberchops/re-livinguktaiwan-skc5h1

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We want to address the issue of downvoting. It has caused pain to many people, and we want to make sure it doesn't happen again reply to @jacobtothe

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We hope that those who genuinely care about Hive will reconsider their actions, as continuing down this path could inadvertently harm innocent users who are unaware of these issues

lol the Marky mark keeps dreaming

There's been a notable increase in frustration and concern among many users

Reply 2 @crimsonclad You may consider yourself clever

Reply to @crimsonclad

Consider revising the value plan, as it's not providing significant benefits to HIVE

The Value Plan, as it stands, seems to be a one-sided relationship with the HIVE platform, where the benefits are one-way

Actions indeed speak louder than words, a fact we've all observed individuals may talk a good game, a whole lot of shit, but their actions often expose their genuine nature LOL

We consider it unwise to engage in harmful actions, even if you think you can escape the repercussions

https://hive.blog/politics/@jacobtothe/re-bpcvoter1-shjdc8

The Hive Police aka Hivewatchers, are the real heroes of Hive LOL, aren't they?

Feast your eyes on Hive's trending page, what a load of trash

LoL it's the Hivewatchers Hive Police, dishing out orders like a bakery LOL! Folks, do what you want with your Hive power, just as you please. And you, Hivewatchers, downvote away, but remember, judgment day's coming

Harry fam We're just here, laughing at the shenanigans on Hive! Sure, our content's getting downvoted, but hey, it's all part of the game LOL

https://hive.blog/hive-158694/@hivewatchers/shhnhs

adm [-]
meesterboom [-]
steemcleaners [-]
jacobtothe [-]
logic [-]
chekohler [-]
b00m [-]
celestegray [-]
citizensmith [-]
sazbird [-]
technicalside [-]
bagpuss [-]
vxn666 [-]
spaminator [-]
meestemboom [-]
ihal0001 [-]
tillmea [-]
meesterleo [-]
meesterbrain [-]
unclefunker [-]
and 1 more

https://hive.blog/hivewatchers/@bpcvoter/shqkqc

On Hive, there's a user who frequently burns a significant amount of Hive LOL with his own accounts

How To Fool An Entire Population

it's so, so concerning to see Blocktrades delegating 2+ million Hive power to Buildawhale, and Buildawhale is downvoting legitimate content

We began sharing factual information following unwarranted downvotes on Hive it's all in the transactions

Upon examining our posts, you will notice they have been downvoted, and we've been labeled as scammers and spammers, which we find amusing. We consistently share new content

Once again, we ask why is our legit content being downvoted on Hive and what is the reason behind it. Hivewatchers ADM spaminator steemcleaners guiltyparties logic

We have Hive witnesses farming Hive, self-voting, operating comment farms, and self-funding projects with community resources

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@blockheadgames/activities

https://peakd.com/@hiveauctions/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@meritocracy/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@jacobtothe/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@leovoter/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@upmyvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/activities

Let's delve into the Builda whale farm on the Hive, Gogreenbuddy, who is also colloquially known as the Marky mark USAINVOTE UPMYVOTE IPROMOTE and 100's more if not thousands

Buildawhale farm

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: 25 days ago
Total HP: 15,283.568
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000
https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

The Marky mark

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: a month ago
Total HP: 13,913.812
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

Usainvote

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 20, 2024
Total HP: 7,026.082
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

Apeminingclub

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 22, 2024
Total HP: 28.306
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

Gogreenbuddy

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 15, 2024
Total HP: 1,960.063
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

#thedarksideofhive

https://www.publish0x.com/the-dark-side-of-hive

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/who-is-cashing-out

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/we-exposed-the-buildawhale-comment-and-its-unfortunate-to-note-that-the-issue-persists-we-have-observed-that-this-individual-i

https://www.bilpcoin.com/undefined/@bpcvoter1/zagi

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/two-years-ago

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

I'm serious, turn yourself in before you turn postal. Get the help you need. No one should suffer like this.

https://peakd.com/inleo/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-skbzej

Downvoters we've got to ask, what's the joy in downvoting, huh? It just shows how down in the dumps you are! Remember, Themarkymark himself has been downvoted in the past

Funny seeing how much power a Hiver with mental health issues wields! And talk about support, Blocktrades is like his trusty sidekick LOL

Many question the impact of downvoting and the role of certain Top Hivers, including Themarkymark who abuses his power, many express disappointment about the lack of response from those in positions of authority NO HELP.

Withdraw vesting from @poshbot to @ipromote0.921 HIVE
Oct 27, 2021

https://peakd.com/@ipromote/wallet

https://peakd.com/bpc/@bpcvoter2/the-hive-police-are-doing-a-disservice-to-the-hive-community-by-farming-hive-and-turning-a-blind-eye-to-the-real-spammers-and

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-believe-many-top-hivers-are-struggling-with-mental-health-issues-addiction-and-personal-problems

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/downvotes-on-hive-should-be-used-for-their-intended-purpose-not-as-a-tool-for-the-hive-whales-to-abuse-or-manipulate

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-have-made-it-clear-that-if-the-downvoting-continues-bilpcoin-and-others-are-prepared-to-delve-deeper-and-share-more

https://peakd.com/hive-187189/@bpcvoter3/hello-community-did-you-know-alpha-account-belongs-to-blocktrades-wife-wtf

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/we-started-investigating-after-being-wrongly-downvoted-we-spoke-with-hive-blurt-steem-users-and-others-who-are-following-our

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/many-hive-community-members-are-expressing-their-concerns-about-the-downvoting-trend-which-we-and-they-believe-is-detrimental-to

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-funny-how-you-can-try-to-lie-on-hive-where-every-transaction-is-public-to-all-which-makes-it-quite-dumb-to-deny-or-deflect

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-quite-funny-to-observe-the-behavior-of-individuals-when-they-find-themselves-in-a-situation-where-their-actions-are-exposed

Buildawhale downvoting good content, self-voting comments powering down funds that are then sent to Ipromote and then the alpha account controlled by Blocktrades' wife doesn't look good and raises questions about the transparency and fairness of Hive.

https://www.reddit.com/r/stoptheabuseonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhalefarmonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhale

https://www.reddit.com/r/Thedarksideofhive

https://hive.blog/created/bpc

https://peakd.com/created/bilpcoin

https://ecency.com/created/bilpcoin

https://www.bilpcoin.com/created

STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM

Posted using Bilpcoin

Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote0.000 HIVE
10 days ago
Withdraw vesting from @proposalalert to @ipromote1.191 HIVE
10 days ago

STOP THE ABUSE !DOOK STOP THE SMOKING !WEED STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM @GOGREENBUDDY !LOL 2

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/wallet

Sent to gogreenbuddy-7.195 HIVE
Sep 2, 2023

Withdraw vesting from @buildawhale to @ipromote4513.185 HIVE
12 days ago

Received: 2,320,284 HP
@blocktrades 2,320,227 HP Aug 16, 2020
@nwjordan 24 HP May 27, 2018
@gillianlienmap 23 HP Aug 18, 2020
@epicgames 6 HP Jul 2, 2019
@drax

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/wallet

111155544433333

bbbbbbb

Posted using Bilpcoin

avatar

Holly Shit! That's a lot of money.. 😨 In how many years?

avatar

We ask, why doesn't anyone do anything about these bad downvotes on Hive?

Very alarming situation on Hive: Misuse of power, fake interactions, and abuse of downvoting we've spoken up about the abuse of power on Hive, only to be downvoted and spoken to poorly.

Themarkymark and others are misusing their power, with Blocktrades delegating Hive power to Buildawhale and Usainvote.

The marky mark need drugs

livinguktaiwan (79)in HiveFest • 2 days ago
He would never survive an hour at HiveFest now 🔪🔪🔪

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@livinguktaiwan/re-slobberchops-skc63a

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@slobberchops/re-livinguktaiwan-skc5h1

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We want to address the issue of downvoting. It has caused pain to many people, and we want to make sure it doesn't happen again reply to @jacobtothe

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We hope that those who genuinely care about Hive will reconsider their actions, as continuing down this path could inadvertently harm innocent users who are unaware of these issues

lol the Marky mark keeps dreaming

There's been a notable increase in frustration and concern among many users

Reply 2 @crimsonclad You may consider yourself clever

Reply to @crimsonclad

Consider revising the value plan, as it's not providing significant benefits to HIVE

The Value Plan, as it stands, seems to be a one-sided relationship with the HIVE platform, where the benefits are one-way

Actions indeed speak louder than words, a fact we've all observed individuals may talk a good game, a whole lot of shit, but their actions often expose their genuine nature LOL

We consider it unwise to engage in harmful actions, even if you think you can escape the repercussions

https://hive.blog/politics/@jacobtothe/re-bpcvoter1-shjdc8

The Hive Police aka Hivewatchers, are the real heroes of Hive LOL, aren't they?

Feast your eyes on Hive's trending page, what a load of trash

LoL it's the Hivewatchers Hive Police, dishing out orders like a bakery LOL! Folks, do what you want with your Hive power, just as you please. And you, Hivewatchers, downvote away, but remember, judgment day's coming

Harry fam We're just here, laughing at the shenanigans on Hive! Sure, our content's getting downvoted, but hey, it's all part of the game LOL

https://hive.blog/hive-158694/@hivewatchers/shhnhs

adm [-]
meesterboom [-]
steemcleaners [-]
jacobtothe [-]
logic [-]
chekohler [-]
b00m [-]
celestegray [-]
citizensmith [-]
sazbird [-]
technicalside [-]
bagpuss [-]
vxn666 [-]
spaminator [-]
meestemboom [-]
ihal0001 [-]
tillmea [-]
meesterleo [-]
meesterbrain [-]
unclefunker [-]
and 1 more

https://hive.blog/hivewatchers/@bpcvoter/shqkqc

On Hive, there's a user who frequently burns a significant amount of Hive LOL with his own accounts

How To Fool An Entire Population

it's so, so concerning to see Blocktrades delegating 2+ million Hive power to Buildawhale, and Buildawhale is downvoting legitimate content

We began sharing factual information following unwarranted downvotes on Hive it's all in the transactions

Upon examining our posts, you will notice they have been downvoted, and we've been labeled as scammers and spammers, which we find amusing. We consistently share new content

Once again, we ask why is our legit content being downvoted on Hive and what is the reason behind it. Hivewatchers ADM spaminator steemcleaners guiltyparties logic

We have Hive witnesses farming Hive, self-voting, operating comment farms, and self-funding projects with community resources

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@blockheadgames/activities

https://peakd.com/@hiveauctions/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@meritocracy/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@jacobtothe/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@leovoter/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@upmyvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/activities

Let's delve into the Builda whale farm on the Hive, Gogreenbuddy, who is also colloquially known as the Marky mark USAINVOTE UPMYVOTE IPROMOTE and 100's more if not thousands

Buildawhale farm

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: 25 days ago
Total HP: 15,283.568
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000
https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

The Marky mark

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: a month ago
Total HP: 13,913.812
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

Usainvote

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 20, 2024
Total HP: 7,026.082
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

Apeminingclub

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 22, 2024
Total HP: 28.306
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

Gogreenbuddy

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 15, 2024
Total HP: 1,960.063
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

#thedarksideofhive

https://www.publish0x.com/the-dark-side-of-hive

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/who-is-cashing-out

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/we-exposed-the-buildawhale-comment-and-its-unfortunate-to-note-that-the-issue-persists-we-have-observed-that-this-individual-i

https://www.bilpcoin.com/undefined/@bpcvoter1/zagi

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/two-years-ago

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

I'm serious, turn yourself in before you turn postal. Get the help you need. No one should suffer like this.

https://peakd.com/inleo/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-skbzej

Downvoters we've got to ask, what's the joy in downvoting, huh? It just shows how down in the dumps you are! Remember, Themarkymark himself has been downvoted in the past

Funny seeing how much power a Hiver with mental health issues wields! And talk about support, Blocktrades is like his trusty sidekick LOL

Many question the impact of downvoting and the role of certain Top Hivers, including Themarkymark who abuses his power, many express disappointment about the lack of response from those in positions of authority NO HELP.

Withdraw vesting from @poshbot to @ipromote0.921 HIVE
Oct 27, 2021

https://peakd.com/@ipromote/wallet

https://peakd.com/bpc/@bpcvoter2/the-hive-police-are-doing-a-disservice-to-the-hive-community-by-farming-hive-and-turning-a-blind-eye-to-the-real-spammers-and

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-believe-many-top-hivers-are-struggling-with-mental-health-issues-addiction-and-personal-problems

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/downvotes-on-hive-should-be-used-for-their-intended-purpose-not-as-a-tool-for-the-hive-whales-to-abuse-or-manipulate

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-have-made-it-clear-that-if-the-downvoting-continues-bilpcoin-and-others-are-prepared-to-delve-deeper-and-share-more

https://peakd.com/hive-187189/@bpcvoter3/hello-community-did-you-know-alpha-account-belongs-to-blocktrades-wife-wtf

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/we-started-investigating-after-being-wrongly-downvoted-we-spoke-with-hive-blurt-steem-users-and-others-who-are-following-our

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/many-hive-community-members-are-expressing-their-concerns-about-the-downvoting-trend-which-we-and-they-believe-is-detrimental-to

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-funny-how-you-can-try-to-lie-on-hive-where-every-transaction-is-public-to-all-which-makes-it-quite-dumb-to-deny-or-deflect

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-quite-funny-to-observe-the-behavior-of-individuals-when-they-find-themselves-in-a-situation-where-their-actions-are-exposed

Buildawhale downvoting good content, self-voting comments powering down funds that are then sent to Ipromote and then the alpha account controlled by Blocktrades' wife doesn't look good and raises questions about the transparency and fairness of Hive.

https://www.reddit.com/r/stoptheabuseonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhalefarmonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhale

https://www.reddit.com/r/Thedarksideofhive

https://hive.blog/created/bpc

https://peakd.com/created/bilpcoin

https://ecency.com/created/bilpcoin

https://www.bilpcoin.com/created

STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM

Posted using Bilpcoin

Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote0.000 HIVE
10 days ago
Withdraw vesting from @proposalalert to @ipromote1.191 HIVE
10 days ago

STOP THE ABUSE !DOOK STOP THE SMOKING !WEED STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM @GOGREENBUDDY !LOL 2

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/wallet

Sent to gogreenbuddy-7.195 HIVE
Sep 2, 2023

Withdraw vesting from @buildawhale to @ipromote4513.185 HIVE
12 days ago

Received: 2,320,284 HP
@blocktrades 2,320,227 HP Aug 16, 2020
@nwjordan 24 HP May 27, 2018
@gillianlienmap 23 HP Aug 18, 2020
@epicgames 6 HP Jul 2, 2019
@drax

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/wallet

111155544433333

bbbbbbbb

Posted using Bilpcoin

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holy f*!

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We ask, why doesn't anyone do anything about these bad downvotes on Hive?

Very alarming situation on Hive: Misuse of power, fake interactions, and abuse of downvoting we've spoken up about the abuse of power on Hive, only to be downvoted and spoken to poorly.

Themarkymark and others are misusing their power, with Blocktrades delegating Hive power to Buildawhale and Usainvote.

The marky mark need drugs

livinguktaiwan (79)in HiveFest • 2 days ago
He would never survive an hour at HiveFest now 🔪🔪🔪

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@livinguktaiwan/re-slobberchops-skc63a

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@slobberchops/re-livinguktaiwan-skc5h1

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We want to address the issue of downvoting. It has caused pain to many people, and we want to make sure it doesn't happen again reply to @jacobtothe

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We hope that those who genuinely care about Hive will reconsider their actions, as continuing down this path could inadvertently harm innocent users who are unaware of these issues

lol the Marky mark keeps dreaming

There's been a notable increase in frustration and concern among many users

Reply 2 @crimsonclad You may consider yourself clever

Reply to @crimsonclad

Consider revising the value plan, as it's not providing significant benefits to HIVE

The Value Plan, as it stands, seems to be a one-sided relationship with the HIVE platform, where the benefits are one-way

Actions indeed speak louder than words, a fact we've all observed individuals may talk a good game, a whole lot of shit, but their actions often expose their genuine nature LOL

We consider it unwise to engage in harmful actions, even if you think you can escape the repercussions

https://hive.blog/politics/@jacobtothe/re-bpcvoter1-shjdc8

The Hive Police aka Hivewatchers, are the real heroes of Hive LOL, aren't they?

Feast your eyes on Hive's trending page, what a load of trash

LoL it's the Hivewatchers Hive Police, dishing out orders like a bakery LOL! Folks, do what you want with your Hive power, just as you please. And you, Hivewatchers, downvote away, but remember, judgment day's coming

Harry fam We're just here, laughing at the shenanigans on Hive! Sure, our content's getting downvoted, but hey, it's all part of the game LOL

https://hive.blog/hive-158694/@hivewatchers/shhnhs

adm [-]
meesterboom [-]
steemcleaners [-]
jacobtothe [-]
logic [-]
chekohler [-]
b00m [-]
celestegray [-]
citizensmith [-]
sazbird [-]
technicalside [-]
bagpuss [-]
vxn666 [-]
spaminator [-]
meestemboom [-]
ihal0001 [-]
tillmea [-]
meesterleo [-]
meesterbrain [-]
unclefunker [-]
and 1 more

https://hive.blog/hivewatchers/@bpcvoter/shqkqc

On Hive, there's a user who frequently burns a significant amount of Hive LOL with his own accounts

How To Fool An Entire Population

it's so, so concerning to see Blocktrades delegating 2+ million Hive power to Buildawhale, and Buildawhale is downvoting legitimate content

We began sharing factual information following unwarranted downvotes on Hive it's all in the transactions

Upon examining our posts, you will notice they have been downvoted, and we've been labeled as scammers and spammers, which we find amusing. We consistently share new content

Once again, we ask why is our legit content being downvoted on Hive and what is the reason behind it. Hivewatchers ADM spaminator steemcleaners guiltyparties logic

We have Hive witnesses farming Hive, self-voting, operating comment farms, and self-funding projects with community resources

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@blockheadgames/activities

https://peakd.com/@hiveauctions/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@meritocracy/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@jacobtothe/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@leovoter/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@upmyvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/activities

Let's delve into the Builda whale farm on the Hive, Gogreenbuddy, who is also colloquially known as the Marky mark USAINVOTE UPMYVOTE IPROMOTE and 100's more if not thousands

Buildawhale farm

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: 25 days ago
Total HP: 15,283.568
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000
https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

The Marky mark

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: a month ago
Total HP: 13,913.812
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

Usainvote

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 20, 2024
Total HP: 7,026.082
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

Apeminingclub

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 22, 2024
Total HP: 28.306
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

Gogreenbuddy

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 15, 2024
Total HP: 1,960.063
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

#thedarksideofhive

https://www.publish0x.com/the-dark-side-of-hive

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/who-is-cashing-out

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/we-exposed-the-buildawhale-comment-and-its-unfortunate-to-note-that-the-issue-persists-we-have-observed-that-this-individual-i

https://www.bilpcoin.com/undefined/@bpcvoter1/zagi

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/two-years-ago

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

I'm serious, turn yourself in before you turn postal. Get the help you need. No one should suffer like this.

https://peakd.com/inleo/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-skbzej

Downvoters we've got to ask, what's the joy in downvoting, huh? It just shows how down in the dumps you are! Remember, Themarkymark himself has been downvoted in the past

Funny seeing how much power a Hiver with mental health issues wields! And talk about support, Blocktrades is like his trusty sidekick LOL

Many question the impact of downvoting and the role of certain Top Hivers, including Themarkymark who abuses his power, many express disappointment about the lack of response from those in positions of authority NO HELP.

Withdraw vesting from @poshbot to @ipromote0.921 HIVE
Oct 27, 2021

https://peakd.com/@ipromote/wallet

https://peakd.com/bpc/@bpcvoter2/the-hive-police-are-doing-a-disservice-to-the-hive-community-by-farming-hive-and-turning-a-blind-eye-to-the-real-spammers-and

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-believe-many-top-hivers-are-struggling-with-mental-health-issues-addiction-and-personal-problems

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/downvotes-on-hive-should-be-used-for-their-intended-purpose-not-as-a-tool-for-the-hive-whales-to-abuse-or-manipulate

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-have-made-it-clear-that-if-the-downvoting-continues-bilpcoin-and-others-are-prepared-to-delve-deeper-and-share-more

https://peakd.com/hive-187189/@bpcvoter3/hello-community-did-you-know-alpha-account-belongs-to-blocktrades-wife-wtf

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/we-started-investigating-after-being-wrongly-downvoted-we-spoke-with-hive-blurt-steem-users-and-others-who-are-following-our

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/many-hive-community-members-are-expressing-their-concerns-about-the-downvoting-trend-which-we-and-they-believe-is-detrimental-to

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-funny-how-you-can-try-to-lie-on-hive-where-every-transaction-is-public-to-all-which-makes-it-quite-dumb-to-deny-or-deflect

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-quite-funny-to-observe-the-behavior-of-individuals-when-they-find-themselves-in-a-situation-where-their-actions-are-exposed

Buildawhale downvoting good content, self-voting comments powering down funds that are then sent to Ipromote and then the alpha account controlled by Blocktrades' wife doesn't look good and raises questions about the transparency and fairness of Hive.

https://www.reddit.com/r/stoptheabuseonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhalefarmonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhale

https://www.reddit.com/r/Thedarksideofhive

https://hive.blog/created/bpc

https://peakd.com/created/bilpcoin

https://ecency.com/created/bilpcoin

https://www.bilpcoin.com/created

STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM

Posted using Bilpcoin

Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote0.000 HIVE
10 days ago
Withdraw vesting from @proposalalert to @ipromote1.191 HIVE
10 days ago

STOP THE ABUSE !DOOK STOP THE SMOKING !WEED STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM @GOGREENBUDDY !LOL 2

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/wallet

Sent to gogreenbuddy-7.195 HIVE
Sep 2, 2023

Withdraw vesting from @buildawhale to @ipromote4513.185 HIVE
12 days ago

Received: 2,320,284 HP
@blocktrades 2,320,227 HP Aug 16, 2020
@nwjordan 24 HP May 27, 2018
@gillianlienmap 23 HP Aug 18, 2020
@epicgames 6 HP Jul 2, 2019
@drax

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/wallet

111155544433333

mbmbbm

Posted using Bilpcoin

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We ask, why doesn't anyone do anything about these bad downvotes on Hive?

Very alarming situation on Hive: Misuse of power, fake interactions, and abuse of downvoting we've spoken up about the abuse of power on Hive, only to be downvoted and spoken to poorly.

Themarkymark and others are misusing their power, with Blocktrades delegating Hive power to Buildawhale and Usainvote.

The marky mark need drugs

livinguktaiwan (79)in HiveFest • 2 days ago
He would never survive an hour at HiveFest now 🔪🔪🔪

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@livinguktaiwan/re-slobberchops-skc63a

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@slobberchops/re-livinguktaiwan-skc5h1

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We want to address the issue of downvoting. It has caused pain to many people, and we want to make sure it doesn't happen again reply to @jacobtothe

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We hope that those who genuinely care about Hive will reconsider their actions, as continuing down this path could inadvertently harm innocent users who are unaware of these issues

lol the Marky mark keeps dreaming

There's been a notable increase in frustration and concern among many users

Reply 2 @crimsonclad You may consider yourself clever

Reply to @crimsonclad

Consider revising the value plan, as it's not providing significant benefits to HIVE

The Value Plan, as it stands, seems to be a one-sided relationship with the HIVE platform, where the benefits are one-way

Actions indeed speak louder than words, a fact we've all observed individuals may talk a good game, a whole lot of shit, but their actions often expose their genuine nature LOL

We consider it unwise to engage in harmful actions, even if you think you can escape the repercussions

https://hive.blog/politics/@jacobtothe/re-bpcvoter1-shjdc8

The Hive Police aka Hivewatchers, are the real heroes of Hive LOL, aren't they?

Feast your eyes on Hive's trending page, what a load of trash

LoL it's the Hivewatchers Hive Police, dishing out orders like a bakery LOL! Folks, do what you want with your Hive power, just as you please. And you, Hivewatchers, downvote away, but remember, judgment day's coming

Harry fam We're just here, laughing at the shenanigans on Hive! Sure, our content's getting downvoted, but hey, it's all part of the game LOL

https://hive.blog/hive-158694/@hivewatchers/shhnhs

adm [-]
meesterboom [-]
steemcleaners [-]
jacobtothe [-]
logic [-]
chekohler [-]
b00m [-]
celestegray [-]
citizensmith [-]
sazbird [-]
technicalside [-]
bagpuss [-]
vxn666 [-]
spaminator [-]
meestemboom [-]
ihal0001 [-]
tillmea [-]
meesterleo [-]
meesterbrain [-]
unclefunker [-]
and 1 more

https://hive.blog/hivewatchers/@bpcvoter/shqkqc

On Hive, there's a user who frequently burns a significant amount of Hive LOL with his own accounts

How To Fool An Entire Population

it's so, so concerning to see Blocktrades delegating 2+ million Hive power to Buildawhale, and Buildawhale is downvoting legitimate content

We began sharing factual information following unwarranted downvotes on Hive it's all in the transactions

Upon examining our posts, you will notice they have been downvoted, and we've been labeled as scammers and spammers, which we find amusing. We consistently share new content

Once again, we ask why is our legit content being downvoted on Hive and what is the reason behind it. Hivewatchers ADM spaminator steemcleaners guiltyparties logic

We have Hive witnesses farming Hive, self-voting, operating comment farms, and self-funding projects with community resources

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@blockheadgames/activities

https://peakd.com/@hiveauctions/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@meritocracy/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@jacobtothe/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@leovoter/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@upmyvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/activities

Let's delve into the Builda whale farm on the Hive, Gogreenbuddy, who is also colloquially known as the Marky mark USAINVOTE UPMYVOTE IPROMOTE and 100's more if not thousands

Buildawhale farm

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: 25 days ago
Total HP: 15,283.568
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000
https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

The Marky mark

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: a month ago
Total HP: 13,913.812
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

Usainvote

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 20, 2024
Total HP: 7,026.082
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

Apeminingclub

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 22, 2024
Total HP: 28.306
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

Gogreenbuddy

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 15, 2024
Total HP: 1,960.063
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

#thedarksideofhive

https://www.publish0x.com/the-dark-side-of-hive

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/who-is-cashing-out

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/we-exposed-the-buildawhale-comment-and-its-unfortunate-to-note-that-the-issue-persists-we-have-observed-that-this-individual-i

https://www.bilpcoin.com/undefined/@bpcvoter1/zagi

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/two-years-ago

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

I'm serious, turn yourself in before you turn postal. Get the help you need. No one should suffer like this.

https://peakd.com/inleo/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-skbzej

Downvoters we've got to ask, what's the joy in downvoting, huh? It just shows how down in the dumps you are! Remember, Themarkymark himself has been downvoted in the past

Funny seeing how much power a Hiver with mental health issues wields! And talk about support, Blocktrades is like his trusty sidekick LOL

Many question the impact of downvoting and the role of certain Top Hivers, including Themarkymark who abuses his power, many express disappointment about the lack of response from those in positions of authority NO HELP.

Withdraw vesting from @poshbot to @ipromote0.921 HIVE
Oct 27, 2021

https://peakd.com/@ipromote/wallet

https://peakd.com/bpc/@bpcvoter2/the-hive-police-are-doing-a-disservice-to-the-hive-community-by-farming-hive-and-turning-a-blind-eye-to-the-real-spammers-and

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-believe-many-top-hivers-are-struggling-with-mental-health-issues-addiction-and-personal-problems

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/downvotes-on-hive-should-be-used-for-their-intended-purpose-not-as-a-tool-for-the-hive-whales-to-abuse-or-manipulate

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-have-made-it-clear-that-if-the-downvoting-continues-bilpcoin-and-others-are-prepared-to-delve-deeper-and-share-more

https://peakd.com/hive-187189/@bpcvoter3/hello-community-did-you-know-alpha-account-belongs-to-blocktrades-wife-wtf

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/we-started-investigating-after-being-wrongly-downvoted-we-spoke-with-hive-blurt-steem-users-and-others-who-are-following-our

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/many-hive-community-members-are-expressing-their-concerns-about-the-downvoting-trend-which-we-and-they-believe-is-detrimental-to

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-funny-how-you-can-try-to-lie-on-hive-where-every-transaction-is-public-to-all-which-makes-it-quite-dumb-to-deny-or-deflect

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-quite-funny-to-observe-the-behavior-of-individuals-when-they-find-themselves-in-a-situation-where-their-actions-are-exposed

Buildawhale downvoting good content, self-voting comments powering down funds that are then sent to Ipromote and then the alpha account controlled by Blocktrades' wife doesn't look good and raises questions about the transparency and fairness of Hive.

https://www.reddit.com/r/stoptheabuseonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhalefarmonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhale

https://www.reddit.com/r/Thedarksideofhive

https://hive.blog/created/bpc

https://peakd.com/created/bilpcoin

https://ecency.com/created/bilpcoin

https://www.bilpcoin.com/created

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When will you talk with me. Until then, STFU.

You have no time to see me until I do something you do not like?
That show the level of your thinking.

If you can not call for discussion, and you feel the need to resort to name calling. You do not have the intellect to debate.

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I called no names? Just asked a question to call for a discussion....

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You put forth your conclusion. Those not of your opinion are wrong.

I will ask this question to you. Why are you not for the chain? Why do you hold others to a standard you will not upkeep?

Why have you never helped me to bring about changes?

Why do you oppose me when you never showed me support?

Yes you belittled all to peasants. The uneducated people.

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lol me me me

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I thought you did not want to hang around me.

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Do what I tell you to do or I will remove support. Dictator.

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I guess I should add the HP from gamesupport too

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I guess the game is second to YOU you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you

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Thus shows your fragile mentality.

Cannot even find your own words.

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Bulk tagging is considered SPAM on the blockchain, use your HIVE account responsibly, it is a valuable asset.

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Did you put money into a race car or motocross or help countless organizations and functions? Didn't think so, else I'd of voted your proposal.

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err yes but did not put up a Hive proposal used my own money....however this is a waste of Hive money and is basically fraud with a touch of corruption. Appreciate you responding though!

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After spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on the rally car, I don't see what benefit it has brought to Hive. Why not simply turn the 40000 Euros recouped from the previous cars' sale, back into Hive to put back in the fund and then admit it was a good try that didnt work out before moving on to something else?

A quarter of a million spent on targeting Crypto users and gamers with Google ads, advertising PeakD and Ecency rather than Hive.io might have a much better prospect of creating new users than sponsoring a car in the lowest level of WRC. Even at grassroots sports, you could sponsor literally hundreds of teams around the world who in total, would probably have created far greater eyes on brand than the rally car.

I would also ask the name of the law firm who is preparing the legal documents please and if the quote is fixed and contractual, may a redacted copy be publically posted on the blockchain for everyone to see?

As for the Water in Ghana project. Excellent. Not just because its a fine charitable cause but because one day, it may be picked up by the world's media as a sterling example of how blockchain technology and alternative funding methods can create positive impact in the world.

Do we have an official press officer at Hive who can make this happen? If not, perhaps employing one on a part-time basis and ensure members of the media are at the screening maybe money well spent.

Finally. Promotional pens cost less than a dollar each. People use pens all the time. They dont walk around wearing pink plastic bracelets.

As well as marketing the blockchain and the ecosytem exclusively, which is good to attempt to draw major investment, market the DApps themselves as individual brands, for it is they that create users. No one joins Hive. People join Ecency or Splinterlands. The DApps in turn, also need to use some of their funding to market themselves individually. Marketing and advertising is wasted if no one has a clue exactly what the product is or does thats being pushed at them.

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You hit on a good point here with the fact that funneling to Peakd or Ecency would be better than hive.io, which is also the entire problem with all the advertising in general. The rally car and other similar things already pivoted to showcase the currency. Conferences and events all have dapp flags all over them. But everyone knows that the main site has to be redesigned. This main site should be managed by the Hive community, it should be redesigned professionally as a donation. So far it was built and maintained without anyone making anything off it. Someone with the design skills and the time (emphasis on time) needs to come forward and work on it. Repo is here: https://gitlab.syncad.com/hive/hive-io (MR to Develop branch)

The legal opinion is meant to be public. I don't see how it wouldn't be because this set of documents is for exchanges and is similar to the Hive Whitepaper in purpose.

Every VP activity has someone who handles journalists. Some of the larger activities have a good method of getting them to notice, usually with local press. The film screening will definitely have journalists. But in general, press is something we constantly need people with experience to volunteer for. We do have two press release writers with at least access to publishing sites. We also have publications lined up - these are paid vendors, we are starting to use them more.

Hive merch we have in all shapes and sizes: shirts, hats, mugs, pens, stickers, keychains, thermoses, markers, notebooks, bags, whatever is most economical and fits the event.

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😊👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

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I appreciate the added information in this particular proposal but I still see NO receipts, budgets, costs or any financial backing behind the hundreds of thousands of HBD you come begging for every few months.

  • What are your operating costs?
  • What are your costs per event?
  • What are your funds left over from the last round?
  • What do you have in reserve for unexpected expenses or events?

All of this information is CRUCIAL to provide people for us to have any semblance of an idea what you are doing. There are plenty of “ideas” but very little evidence of these absolute basics.

The other thing this really speaks to the heart of - how the hell are we supposed to be taken seriously by corporations and exchanges if the people who are supposedly doing the most marketing and promotions activities can’t provide a detailed budget plan, expense report and operating costs? These are finance 101 guys. You are absolutely wasting your and our time if you can’t provide us financial information from your activities. It borders on money laundering, no joke at all. You have NO hope of doing anything in the US if you can’t provide these basics. The people in the US are extremely savvy in terms of sniffing this shit out.

I want us to succeed, but this will never succeed if you continually ignore the people who are asking you for evidence where the money is going.

You don’t have to provide names and doxx people but what the fuck is so difficult about giving us financials on hundreds of thousands of dollars every few months, coming out to several million dollars?

Putting it in “DM” is absolutely unacceptable if you are publicly asking for these obscene hands outs. If you won’t be public about it, then don’t submit a proposal. You’ve already got the backing of blocktrades (which I think is absolutely wrong given the lack of accounting) so this seems a charade.

Help us all understand what you are doing!

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Good points but there is a complete set of financials coming out in a few weeks as part of the annual review. The reason they're not in this post is because we're waiting on a few refunds and some final expenses before closing off the year. The financials are going to be out very soon, with the master spreadsheet coming first because in addition to acting as a copy of the on-chain ledger, it also lets us classify these expenses.

We do not keep reserves nor ever will. We run to empty and then refill. It is like this by design because it is not the purpose of the DHF to ever contribute to any reserves, just like it shouldn't contribute to powered up funds.

One issue we know we have is the need for weekly communication. There is an earlier VP post with strategy input and a volunteer form.

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peakd ai : '{"prompt":"I want you to be brutal in a professional marketting analysis of this post, and I want your analysis to focus on avenues for fraud and money laundering","postAuthor":"valueplan","postPermlink":"value-plan-q4-2024-q1-2025-bridge-proposal-and-discussion"}'

This post contains several red flags that could indicate potential avenues for fraud and money laundering:

  1. Lack of Transparency: The post mentions that actual costs are not known at the time of engagement for promotional activities, and that financial disclosure is often not permitted by vendors prior to events taking place. This lack of transparency could make it easier to manipulate budgets and hide illicit activities.

2.Fast-Paced Decision Making: The post mentions that promotional opportunities often come up fast, sometimes with only 48 hours notice. This sense of urgency could be exploited to bypass proper due diligence and oversight processes, making it easier to engage in fraudulent activities.

3.Repurposing Funds: The post mentions that funds earmarked for legal documents were repurposed for other initiatives, such as the Miami Art Week event. This kind of fund repurposing could be used to funnel money into unauthorized activities or personal pockets.

  1. Complex Structure: The post outlines a complex organizational structure with multiple team members and key holders involved in decision-making. This complexity could be used to obfuscate financial transactions and responsibilities, making it harder to trace fraudulent activities.
    Overall the lack of transparency, fast-paced decision making, fund repurposing, and complex organizational structure outlined in this post could create opportunities for fraud and money laundering within the Value Plan project. It is important for stakeholders to carefully scrutinize financial transactions and ensure proper oversight and accountability to mitigate these risks. [DONE]

'{"prompt":"If you were the professor of an introductory marketting course, or a markettng executive, would you pass or fail this proposal, and why? 200 words or less","postAuthor":"valueplan","postPermlink":"value-plan-q4-2024-q1-2025-bridge-proposal-and-discussion"}'

peakd ai :
As a professor of an introductory marketing course or a marketing executive, I would fail this proposal. While the proposal provides detailed information about various activities and initiatives, it lacks a clear and concise focus on marketing strategies and objectives. The excessive amount of information about budget allocations and specific activities detracts from the overall marketing plan. Additionally,the proposal lacks a cohesive narrative that ties all the activities together to achieve a common marketing goal. Furthermore, the proposal includes unnecessary details about past events and activities that do not directly contribute to the future marketing strategy. A successful marketing plan should be forward-looking and focused on achieving specific marketing objectives. Overall,the proposal
would benefit from a more streamlined approach that clearly outlines the marketing goals, strategies, and tactics for the specified time frame. Additionally, a more concise and focused presentation of the budget allocation for marketing activities would enhance the overall effectiveness of the proposal.[DONE]

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This AI prompt concludes that goals, strategies, and tactics need to be outlined. This is exactly what is happening right now. My goal is to have VP processes, metrics and workflows so well documented that they no longer require any explanation to be applied by others.

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heh, nice try with AI :)

Out of curiosity, what is this 'electionwatch' account main purpose? I see some human-readable comments only from last few days, but posts seems to be going for at least several weeks, and all encoded. If cant/dontwant to explain, then maybe quicker question - Does "election" refer to the recent one in USA?

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Yup, the Us election. Originally GA. I was hoping to do more states and more often, but the amount of RCs [Hive] to do this hourly for just one state is quite staggering. I was also hoping to reach out to others to showcase what hive could do and this might motivate others to do the same for other states...but hivewatchers. Elections integrity is a big deal in America, especially after the stolen 2020 election.

In mid October there were accusations of bad data coming from the live feed of the Georgia secretary of state page, and there was a mess in Fulton and Cobb counties in 2020. The live data on the sos page was displayed as images for what I could access through code-which doesn't get store normally on the chain [images get sent to image servers]. So the relevant images were either resized or cropped [to, penultimately, ensure the size was under 64kb], compressed and converted into a format (base 64) that could be uploaded to the chain.

The algorithm to restore the data was made available in php [intended to run from the terminal, not intended as a webpage], and will auto generate the files and some html pages loading them with time stakes.

https://peakd.com/stem/@endhivewatchers/how-hive-was-used-to-keep-the-2020-election-in-check-despite-the-commie-faggots-of-hivewatchers-time-to-end-hivewatchers

In regard to the AI, if you go to your browser's development tools, go to the network tab, after a page is loaded, and play with the ai tool at the top of peakd, you'll see the link that controls the peakd ai prompt (promptstream). you can copy it was curl (right click the link, and look for that option), and paste in a terminal, and modify it to your own custom prompt...but there is a lot of junk outputted. I just thought it would be kind of poetic to let the peakd ai answer it (which still may be openai), rather than a more traditional AI.

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Thank you, that was an interesting read. Both about the clash with hivewatchers, and the one about election. I was few years away and I lost track of politics, views, etc, but I remember them from steem/steemcleaners, and views on what can be considered spam and what not always sparked heated discussions even at that time.. On one hand I can see how, roughly speaking, 64kb x 4 times a day can easily explode to gigabytes/year. Yes, I know, this ball-park calculation is uber-weak. USA does not vote 24/7 and whole year round. But this counter argument is just as weak, because if more states/countries jump in, volume can explode, and both sides of the fence can throw their mudballs like that forever.

On the other hand, I see your reasoning too. If you, or a group, are willing to provide necessary HP/RC for that, and even deny rewards, then wtf? It's not spam for profit. If I recall how some games or dapps dumped trash-like posts enmasse on the stream, and somehow it was OK, and profited from that, and ended up dying due to lack of ppl interest, I can't see why your was not-OK, considering that this application could actually promote Hive as a platform. And considering how "hot" is the topic, I wouldn't be surprised if, your project actually got external interest and extra funding to run. I skip over the fact that it might be hard to make this project seem "legit" and "trustworthy" for other people, but that rarely stopped an archivist, and history shows, after time passes, archives are collected, analyzed, confronted, cross-verified, and are much valued later than at time of birth.

Yet, on yet another hand, as if I had three of them, that vision of yours further down the road, where ballots are scanned and posted and so on.. To be honest, this I can't imagine done the same way. Raw image scan of every paper ballot? I might have misunderstood, but it sounds like several orders of magnitute of data volume.. Core chain itself is not a general-purpose database or a file store for media.. at least I think :P I also won't risk making idiot of myself trying to estimate the potential data size, there's too many compression formats/codecs, even color spaces, degree-of-lossiness, etc. But absolutely for sure, actual files could be stored elsewhere, and chain could be used to store hashes/fingerprints/signatures of those to provide some degree of 'authenticity' for those snapshots, apps for analyzing,supporting,maintenance,etc and organizing some general access to the data, etc..

Aaanyways.. I started flying off the matter - I just wanted to thank you for the explanation and link to the article :) Interesting read, on many levels!

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No more rally cars and definitely no private events in Monaco, who is the lucky SOB who gets to attend that on DHF money? I don't care if they are going to talk about hive and wear a hat, Stop wasting public funds!

Los Aviadores in Maracay, Venezuela.

The VP keeps wasting a disproportionate amount of money in Venezuela, by now I think you are tight with Maduro. Freeze it now, not another cent to that country.

On that note, no more wells, this isn't a charity. Give with your own money, then you can write it off. Which brings me to a point, how do we know you aren't writing it off against your private income?

Financial disclosure is often not publicly permitted by vendors prior to the event taking place. This is typically because Hive has negotiated a lower price than what other exhibitors are paying.

Convenient excuse. Disclose it after the event. With the receipts or any other excuse can be interpreted as a cover up for fraud and attempting to hide the identity of those who partake in fraud. @valued-customer had something to say about this a week ago. While I personally don't think you are engaging in fraud it's understandable that other people can come to that conclusion as you remain anonymous and refuse to provide accounting details to 'protect' people's identity. Redact their name unless they're a business, then too bad.

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“If somehow you’re being prevented from knowing, then you can be absolutely certain that crimes are being committed,” Carlson concluded, “because why else would they be hiding it from you?”--Tucker Carlson

I agree with you.

Thanks!

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No it doesn't work that way in terms of writing it off. That'd be the case if it was Canada or US. It is part of the checks. Normally anyone who processes funds for vendors ends up with extra taxes, which is why we're trying to get vendors to take the transactions directly and deal with the conversion themselves.

Also re: rally car, only one race is pre-paid. No other races are decided at this time.

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Not a fan of the rally car stuff. I really do not see how it's still a consideration given the total lack of interest it has proven to bring. I think there should be plans to look elsewhere, that was tried and done and it clearly isn't working. Why fund it more?

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I think we have wasted enough money on people that have nothing to show in regards to brand exposure or price. If you want to burn money just gamble the dhf money into doge or something. At least there's a chance we profit with that

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Yeah it seems like insanity to continue to throw money at the rally car especially. We're just sponsoring someone else's career instead of providing something useful to the chain. Clearly it doesn't work, surely with valueplan, there should be a plan to provide value. To see if something isn't working, cut it out, and find something else to replace it.

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Dogecoin, no...😂

But if you have a good idea, let me know. I mean, example, Acid set up a AMA for Hive in the biggest crypto reddit group and asked for funding for rewards to entice engagement. We talked about it. Looked at prior results. He will now get the funds for the rewards and I wrote the text for the AMA. Simple.

A good idea is easy to support. Even if people dont like the car, theres still plenty of opportunity for their good ideas to get funding from VP.

But you know what the problem is? I mean ofc you do, youre as cynical as i am😂. It actually takes time and work to get to the point of being even able to give form to an idea and then work to lead it to completion while not getting paid jack shit. 😅
Thats why the complaints and feedback is so vague 100% of the time.

A concrete idea takes work. Attacking something requires very little work.
I can write a whole blog post below about why Paella sucks and I dont even know what a Paella is.

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I actually liked the car idea at first Then I saw it did jack shit for us. Then we did it again for another year. And again jack shit. And now a third year? Why?

I don't see how saying "it doesn't work stop paying for it" is vague.

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How do you know it didnt do anything? How do you know the recent pumps are or are not car related? I mean the car does precisely what its supposed to do. Raise awareness about the Hive brand. You have Hive branding on it, its seen by millions of people, lately we even changed the messaging on it to make it more crypto related. Thats what its supposed to do.
Thats the specific type of marketing. If it didnt do anything nobody would sponsor any car in WRC. Theyd all be the stock color.

Now, you could say that we could spend the money better elsewhere and that is as legit opinion as any but that doesnt mean that because they dont like the car people are forbidden or cant give us those better ideas so we give them a try.

I don't see how saying "it doesn't work stop paying for it" is vague.

I guess "lets not spend money" is not vague but its unhelpful. Its kinda: "We should have marketing but lets not spend money".
But 100% of the "we should do this or that" is completely vague and unhelpful.

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How do you know the recent pumps are or are not car related? I

There's no pump just a steady decline in price with the occasional Korea driven "pump". And all that in a relatively good time for crypto.

Let's not be delusional.

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How do you know the decline wouldnt have been even more steep? The price continued to go up after the Korean pump and dump. How do you know the car didnt have effect on that? If Hive was worth a billion USD right now, even then you would have no way whatsoever to determine if the car had any effect at all.

Im not saying it did or did not. Im saying that its the type of marketing where you can never measurable results in term of price increase. So it can be opposed on that merit and other options presented as an alternative.

I mean, I dont personally like the boreholes, or SWC and a lot of venezuelan stuff, or the current approach to conferences which is why im trying other stuff. Vibes for example brought in around a 1000 new users, generated millions of views. Did it justify expenditure of 20ish k USD? Hard to say. Im changing the approach to conferences to assure VC and investor exposure, we will see if that works. Wer doing the reddit AMA, will see if that works.
If anything works really well the funding will shift towards that.
Its easy to complain but rarely will anyone put in work to provide a better alternative.

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Its easy to complain but rarely will anyone put in work to provide a better alternative.

Here are three options that will actually yield results and are much simpler

  1. just send to null. Stops the bleeding

  2. buy doge. Medium risk high reward. Cause Elon (love him or hate him doesn't matter)

  3. exchange listings, even small ones.



Or we can get a shitty car that keeps breaking down wins no races (edit: always comes last) and nobody buys hive because of it.

The car was a fucking failure. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it. And when fucking everyone tells you the earth is round guess what? It probably is. Stop defending it

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just send to null. Stops the bleeding

No marketing. No buying Doge, no getting exchanges. All what you listed next. :)

buy doge.

VP or DHF arent for profit. Creates massive security problem.

exchange listings, even small ones.

3 that I know of are being worked on. A few US based.

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3 that I know of are being worked on. A few US based.

Good

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How much we paying the person getting us listings?

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Half the initiatives in the proposal are explicitly for getting us listed on exchanges and into big markets. We don't pay for exchange listings, we're shot in both legs because of that, but that's how it is. We also don't do backroom deals. This marketing is the only thing that saves us so far.

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This marketing is the only thing that saves us so far.

Lmao

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Why don't you help instead of just talking out of your ass?

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Why don't you just admit that this whole value plan and everything you have helped fund has BEEN A FUCKING HUGE FAILURE like everyone with two brain cells is pointing out? And just stop this fucking madness that takes hive price down and down instead of doubling down.

How's the amazing tipping bot btw doing? What was that? 200k of hbd thrown to the toilet?

I am sorry to say but with all that history, you are either doing backroom deals and funneling money to your pocket OR just a dumb fucking idiot that should have no say on the dhf. Take your pick.

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Then replace me. Same question, what is stopping you, a member of the decentralized community that is supposed to promote Hive, from helping contribute to this project you're evidently interested in? You have the time, you write well, and we need volunteers.

Bot wasn't mine and I get nothing out of this except the joy of putting hours in here every day.

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Bot wasn't yours. But you helped it receive funding didn't you?

Then replace me. Same question, what is stopping you, a member of the decentralized community that is supposed to promote Hive, from helping contribute to this project you're evidently interested in? You have the time, you write well, and we need volunteers.

I don't see you stepping down for starters.

Second the fact I don't step up to ask for dhf money doesnt necessitate that they should be used to idiotic things that only make hive bleed. They can sit idle until someone with two brain cells does.

from helping contribute to this project you're evidently interested in?

Evidently you aren't since you are powering down.

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No, I just helped them with tech, didn't get anything or touch any tip bot funds. My power down mostly goes to Hivers with medical needs, for their food, and similar. A small amount goes to my infrastructure. You can ask around if you don't believe me.

Don't be mistaken, no one is getting paid for volunteering. I see you typing here and all I see "I want to help" so here's your opportunity. Check your discord dms.

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No, I just helped them with tech, didn't get anything or touch any tip bot funds. My p

Stop playing the idiot.

You helped "them" receive funds that did nothing for hive other than become more sell pressure. Much like this "value" plan. And much like all the proposals that get funded thanks to your voice.

A continuous bleeding for hive price with nothing to show for. That is your legacy.

I have nothing more to say, bye.

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You're overestimating my importance but at the same time it's clear you have no idea what any of us even do.

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it's clear you have no idea what any of us even do.

Who does with this much lack of transparency on how the dhf is being spent?

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A group of people working well to funnel money to crazy shit and their own wallets lol

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MY BROTHER IN CHRIST you are asking for the money. How do we know it is doing jackshit? We don't! If you are asking for money then you should show evidence that it is doing something! We are a small community with little money. We need to know something is working. Can you please link us any kind of report showing effective results of the car stuff? Either good or bad? I am not the one who asked for the money and I am not the one who used the money to get a car and I am not the one proposing anything so I don't even know what data you can provide to back the requests, but if you want to ask for money you need to think of how you can show the value you have generated with data and something more than words.

If you manage to show the results, receipts, impact analysis and all of that then it would be HUGE for Hive because it would simply drive interest! Would you invest in a coin that buys a car? No wtf, why would I? Now would you invest in a coin that has a car and a detailed report of the impacts of having a car for its socials and financials? Heck yeah. Even if the numbers are not good it shows PLANNING and accountability!

THE DATA IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE ACTIVITY!

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If you are asking for money then you should show evidence that it is doing something!

What exactly did I ask money for that isnt very clear what its doing? Hivefest funds were for Hivefest. The result was Hivefest and it seems a closer integration with DASH as well, as a bonus. Vibes, is pretty straight forward. Generated millions of views on social media and onboarded about a 1000 people. And the latest payment for the conference, well, thats happening in December so I dont have any results yet.

Can you please link us any kind of report showing effective results of the car stuff?

The Hive car creates brand exposure. People see it, millions in fact. You can see all the coverage numbers on the official WRC pages. TV viewership estimates, on location attendance, etc. Around 800 million TV viewers and I know Croatia WRC had around 300k people on location.

The Hive car is the type of marketing where you can never have measurable results in term of price action. Even if Hive did a 100x you would never be able to determine if the Hive car had any effect on that at all.
Now you could be opposed to this type of marketing but it doesnt mean its not doing anything. Its putting the Hive brand in front of millions of people.

Is that good enough? Depends on what you think is good enough. Maybe something else is better.

THE DATA IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE ACTIVITY!

The Data is not a factor of the Hive car existance its a factor of being a part of the WRC event. Now, thats not too bad of any idea, we should probably share the numbers WRC achieves from exposure even though the videos we put out do show the massive crowds of people, being interviewed by official accounts, being shown on TV.

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Accountability measures should have been included for this amount of cash taken it is a joke and would only happen here lol

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Dogecoin, no...😂

Also dogecoin is imo a safe bet at least for the next 4 years 🙃

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Supported!

However, rally car needs to be cut

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Honestly if they would fully cut the rally car and stop taking the funding for it I could start to take this thing seriously again. Right now it's just mind numbing stupid. I legit don't understand the thinking of the elite few on here were you expect a constant outflow of money that brings nothing or very little back in would cause anyone to ever invest in the hive blockchain.

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I'm hopeful it'll happen. They are starting the cut back a fair bit, but we need to see more going forward. I'm confident under the leadership of @lordbutterfly it'll eventually happen along with the work I've been coordinating directly with valueplan. I can't disagree though, it doesn't acquire users which I'd argue is one of the most important goals.

Valueplan is going to change a lot over the next 6 months that's all I can say for now.

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Valueplan has provided funds that eyewitnesses claim have been stolen by fraud. When @guiltyparties responded he did not offer to provide receipts to prove there had not been fraud. Instead he refused and said receipts would never be provided.

When @lordbutterfly lashed out at me for asking questions, he denied being paid anything other than for 'organizing hivefest', and when the massive payments made to him by Valueplan were pointed out his response was a stream of invective that would make a sailor blush, and ridicule for ever thinking that massive payments made to him could possibly be payments made to him.

Then he also absolutely refused to provide receipts.

I am appalled that any of you are associated with what has every appearance of being massive theft by fraud, and have put @lordbutterfly in a position of responsibility for managing significant funds without any thought to his inability to provide a professional level of representation.

I urge everyone to have a look at my post and @lordbutterfly's behaviour and responses to reasonable questions regarding expenditures. I would also remind ya'll that the DHF is partly your money. Valueplan is spending your money, and put @lordbutterfly in charge of spending lots of it, >$30k last month.

I wouldn't send him to the grocery store for a loaf of bread.

Despite Valueplan spending almost $3M dollars there are no new listings of Hive on exchanges, no big investors buying in, no influx of users excitedly blogging away, and no accounting for expenditures, nothing. What we did get are accusations of theft by fraud, refusal to provide receipts to prove there was no fraud, misleading claims about payments, intolerable insults and abuse, and the rising stench of corruption wafting across the cryptosphere.

Wipe the lipstick off this pig, because we're not dancing anymore.

Please vote the return proposal.

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The only thing I was paid for was Hivefest.

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Then what happened to the money?

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I bought stuff with it. Not that its your concern what I do with the money I earn.

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The money you got from Valueplan that wasn't to pay you for Hivefest. What happened to that money?

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It was spent on stuff as described in memo.

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If it was then there are receipts that show it was. All I or anyone else wants is that you provide that proof. The memo does not provide that information, so is not any evidence of how you spent that money. If you provide that evidence it will show whether you did what was right. If you do not provide that evidence, then the automatic assumption of everyone that is observing your actions regarding this conversation will be that you did not do what was right, because you are concealing that evidence.

“If somehow you’re being prevented from knowing, then you can be absolutely certain that crimes are being committed,” Carlson concluded, “because why else would they be hiding it from you?”--Tucker Carlson

“Now listen! Today I am giving you a choice between life and death, between prosperity and disaster."--Deuteronomy 30:15

What you do will determine your fate. It is your choice to do what is right and prosper, or to not do that and suffer. I already know what you will choose, because you chose it long ago and all your actions have revealed it for everyone to see. You still will now publicly reveal which fate you have chosen.

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If it was then there are receipts that show it was.

Yeah ofc there is.

I almost wrote a complete answer but quoting Tucker Carlson of all people and the Bible over this, I cant.... you are not a sane person. I cant have a conversation with you. 😂

What you do will determine your fate. It is your choice to do what is right and prosper, or to not do that and suffer. I already know what you will choose, because you chose it long ago and all your actions have revealed it for everyone to see. You still will now publicly reveal which fate you have chosen.

I cant... Your insanity is compelling to observe from simply a sociological perspective but people will seriously start to question my own sanity for interacting with you.

Dont worry crazy. If them CIAs and FBIs come, ill be safe. No worries. 😘

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I cannot compel you to answer these questions, but I am not who will decide your fate. These questions will be answered. There have been credible allegations of fraud regarding Valueplan's administration of disbursements of Hive's DHF fund of nearly $3M, and eyewitnesses to such fraud certainly understand that if they don't provide that information to law enforcement agencies they could end up being blamed for such crimes, so law enforcement is almost certainly presently investigating Valueplan and how it has disbursed the $M's it has spent.

Your disregard for reason and evidence upon which all the blessings of civilization depend is not surprising given your actions that reveal your misunderstanding of the world. Your protestations and claims you are innocent are the ubiquitous behaviour of thieves and scammers in every case known to me, and the one thing besides that all of them have in common is that they obfuscate, misstate, and conceal the actual evidence of their handling of money that didn't belong to them. You have chosen this. You perfectly conform to both these models that exemplify criminal theft by fraud. There is no credible reason for you to do this other than that you are committing theft by fraud. This is what Tucker Carlson said, and why I quoted him.

You stand at the plate with those two strikes against you. Three strikes and you're out. It doesn't matter whether you like the people that tell you the truth. It matters that they tell you the truth, and that the reason you don't like them is that they tell you the truth, because you don't like the truth. Whether you like it or not, the truth is what actually exists and will be the arbiter of your destiny. This is what Deuteronomy 30:15 says, and why I quoted it.

It is my hope that innocent people that have not been aware of these allegations or your attempts to obfuscate, mislead, and prevent people from seeing the evidence of your management of large sums of money that did not belong to you have paid attention to this conversation, and take appropriate steps to prevent them from being blamed for the actions of others that clearly will do everything in their power to avoid being held responsible for, which certainly includes laying blame on others for what they themselves did. We haven't observed that happening yet, because proof of the misdeeds hasn't yet been revealed, because you're hiding it from me, and people that do not have the power to take it.

People that do have the power to take it probably already have it, or will soon, and when they have completed their investigation - that you have forced to be necessary by concealing your administration of other people's money - we will see attempts to blame others for the crimes that are revealed. It is as predictable as the dawn. You walk like a duck. You talk like a duck. You look like a duck. What are you?

You are a duck.

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You are a duck.

Im a spider monkey.

Last comment. I promise. 😂

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Deuteronomy 30:15 is believed to be over 3k years old. This situation is nothing new. Anyone that pays attention to reality, that believes what is true, and understands these facts knows what is going on, what has happened, and what the result will be.

You don't like reality. Your conceit has led you to believe you are a genius that has discovered a fool proof way to do things that you want to do, and because you do not like the truth you are not aware this has all been done before. Spider monkeys do not quack like ducks, don't waddle or paddle in ponds like ducks. They are not ducks, and it is your actions that tell us who you are, not what you want and tell us to believe.

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Whatever you imagined isn't happening. LB paid a vendor last month. I have the agreement sitting in front of me right now.

Receipts have to be so heavily redacted to be posted publicly that they would be almost useless, similar to the one linked here about the car sale. This is because we've had cases of people call vendors/sponsored events and harass them. I already replied to another post committing to ask the conferences if we may publicly share their decks. I can't tell you if anyone will allow it but here's hoping.

There are new exchange listings being worked on on a regular basis, majority tied to our promotions. They do take a long time. This proposal directly funds requirements for US exchanges, which I know a lot of people are waiting on. In fact, almost the entire proposal value is for this.

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In other words "just trust us bro, it for the greater good of hive."

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I don't want anyone to trust me with these Hive promotions and all that goes with them, I want everyone to contribute to them.

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Why can't we simply hire developers to create useful blockchain-based tools and then market these tools through marketing companies to encourage businesses to adopt them?

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I do have some concerns (think I mentioned this long time ago) but also think it is good to have a team working on marketing. My marketing approach might be different as @guiltyparties is aware of since ages - no bad feelings - we like each other. I come from marketing and do this mainly for big corporates, but also did it for known crppto companies (not commnity driven projects).

My stand here still is:

1- We need a key person to position Hive - people buy people, not tech or so - this is a fct
2 - We should maintain / develop basics of ongoing pr - not only social media
3 - Actually should be no. 1 - we need a clear plan what we wanna achive by what? Do we want to raise brand awareness (not sure that makes sense) or go there where our target group is? So next question: Waht is our target group? Do we wanna acquire users or investors? I see many events - I am biased on events - I only go to events when I know exactly that my defined target group is there and if we have exaclty the right message / solution for the needs of these attending tsrgert groups - not sure we know about the attendee structure of all these evens
4 - Film, nice one but isolated - hoipe it works
5 - Rally Car - that is always on top of all I read but really who cares?
6 - Interesting stories / topics? I see none - we had wells in Africa - that is changing the world but we could have increases this as campaign as series with interview of drivers, supporters, people benfitting from it, local politicians - not just one off stories, we need long-termed campaigns

Hpe I do not make people angry, just my view.

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The rally car needs to stop being funded. It was a nice idea at the time. The team did a good job on the design but it's too much money for where we are as an eco-system. We're bleeding funds and price right now so money needs to be carefully managed.

Conferences and events where we can attract users and devs.
Promote individual apps like splinterlands, inleo and peakd.
Cost effective ways to promote brand awareness.

This should be the focus of valueplan in terms of getting value for money by marketing efficiently to a crypto audience.

We have a hiveblocks twitter account that could be used for free, has 40k followers and little to no activity. We aren't doing the basics but we are blowing hundreds of thousands each year with no accountability and no return on investment.

Just look at hive.io and tell me that it is good enough to draw in users. We have no presence on socials like facebook, medium, reddit, instagram where we could actually convert users to our alternatives.

I think that valueplan is hurting the eco-system more than helping it and have to vote against funding it anymore as it seems to be a slush fund for a few lucky users instead of being used to bring in users and developers that we really need.

With a few exceptions like crim and mcsamm who are doing great work it's not being used effectively and with oversight.

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It could be a great system to attract attention if the funds are spent wisely and everything is documented but for all the money spent i see no posts on hive or other various sites to tell people about hive or the activities. It's just not good enough for a struggling eco-system to be burning funds like this.

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The car only has one race which is already pre-paid from the previous car's sale. We already have potential partners talking to us only on the mention of this particular race.

I agree with a lot of what you said. It's right on. Except that it goes to a few lucky users - none of the event organizers get paid. Salaries are outright banned. That's one of the reasons VP even came to be to prevent any spending on salaries.

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I hope that I'm wrong and that the car can lead to something good for hive but i just don't see it at the moment. I've heard nothing that shows me otherwise.

I know that there are a lot of people here putting in a lot of work on behalf of hive so i don't want to be bashing. I want us to be successful as a community.

There are plenty more users who would help work towards this given the chance. Take the hiveblocks twitter account. Pay for the yearly premium and if you or whoever has control of the account doesn't have the time to put it to work give password access to myself, a different user or a small group to keep it active and spread awareness of Hive.

Same could go to telegram, linkdin and any other big crypto hub. Get a group of users to work on a social strategy together and make some noise.

All of these projects above getting funded should be making regular promotional posts as part of the funding that we can take and share across the board. If you were in charge of a company you would be pushing staff to get on linkdin and share every update or activity. We should be in the same mindset.

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We have no presence on socials like facebook, medium, reddit, instagram where we could actually convert users to our alternatives.

Thats part of what Im doing right now. Ill show the results on it soon. Ive spent about 500 HBD to set up social media managers for a few dapps and projects that dont receive DHF funding that wanted them. Travelfeed, CTT podcast, Waivio and Vibes. Basically to showcase activity on Hive.

So far for Vibes its working out well, ill have some numbers for others as well. Its a very low cost but increases output significantly and some dapps perform better than others. Vibes has seen the most results so far. But its being tried.

Weve been trying to shift focus of the spending but it will take time.
What is really needed is having people willing to volunteer their time otherwise its basically 3 people having to do everything themselves for no pay.

For example: It took 2 weeks to set up a strategy and find people to work for very little money that basically spent only 500 HBD for the social media part.
It took days to deal with the AMA on Reddit wer doing. ANd that was based on which of us might have time to do parts of a basically simple online event. You have 1 person dealing with all exchange listings and another person again having to deal with accounting, collect all the invoices, deal with payments that also deals with their own projects they approved. It took a month to set up the Bitbasel conference im going to. It took 4 months to set up Hivefest with hours each day. And VIbes is also just a marketing initiative basically that also takes a lot of my time to do every week to try and develop connection, get views, get new musicians in, get people to promote it.

So wer stretched very thin. Even responding to valid comments here and those from insane people takes time out of our day.
Then you have people requesting even more work from us.
We need more people willing to contribute.

If there was any pay for all this work, or even more contributors it would be much easier to structure VP and adjust to growing demands. It simply is not. This is being pulled along by sheer determination alone.

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Even responding to valid comments here and those from insane people takes time out of our day.

But us crazies love to be responded to. 😅
I'm glad to see that your working in a positive direction and we know that a lot of work goes on behind the scenes. I'm sure that you could enlist more help from the community to do the slower more basic work. I'm happy to volunteer for a couple of smaller tasks if you need.

We need more people willing to contribute.

You could manage a group of people doing the smaller tasks while you spend more time planning and coordinating. The community is full of good users who would get involved if they knew what was needed.

When the splinterlands DAO requested people to cover positions they got a huge response so if there was a list of simple but time consuming roles that could be advertised i think that users would jump in. Especially long term users who can be depended on to stay active in a role.

Personally i would much rather hire a couple of the community to work full time on these tasks ahead of certain other projects with a team of volunteers working alongside them but since it's not the case then i hope that you can find a way to spread the workload to a few more people and take the pressure off as well as see more results.

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But us crazies love to be responded to. 😅

Haha. You know fair well that didnt apply to you. 😅

I'm happy to volunteer for a couple of smaller tasks if you need.

What would you be interested in doing? @guiltyparties was looking for someone to write a article about Hive. Im sure he could use help with that.

The community is full of good users who would get involved if they knew what was needed.

Even the best guys I know that do minor tasks I still end up having to pay. And they need management. I mean I could make a post asking people to do certain things which again needs quality control. lol. Might be some stuff that wont need it... Im just thinking as I write.
Maybe if we had a group on Discord someone wants to create and then kind of recruit volunteers that we could come to with some tasks to do? Maybe would work? But you see how that would also need management.

Personally i would much rather hire a couple of the community to work full time on these tasks ahead of certain other projects with a team of volunteers working alongside them

I mean Splinterlands pays Clay for this type of work. I think its like 60k a year. And Splinterlands is much smaller than Hive. If there was actual pay I could even do corporate talk with no profanity. 😂. Maybe. No promise.
But it would realistically allow us to be more structured because it would be a job. Right now its kinda, "are you grabbing this? Do you want me to grab this? Who can get on this?"
But realistically it wont happen. I can speculate on why. I have my opinions that i shared on why I think it is but it doesnt matter really. It is waht it is.

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It is what it is for now but who knows what the future will hold. Until then I think that a discord is a good idea. A select group of interested users ready to help when they can.

Who knows where that might be but it could be handy when your organizing an event or activity to see how is free for 5 hours this week to jump in and help. Or if there is an article to write or graphics to draw up who can take it on.

I have only basic computer skills so can only help where it makes sense. Write articles if needed, to the best of my abilities.
I would be happy to take on the twitter account or another media account that we think could gain exposure. Push hive information to a wider audience or share interesting content to more people. Especially as peakd are now trialing ads onsite more views could have an impact on price and brand image. Nothing will bring in users faster than a big rise in price over the next year or two.

Many hands make light work so if you did have a support group of 10-20 people in a discord chat, surely it could accomplish something and lighten the load on the three for you.

I can see that a discord would need to be managed from helping with the inleo team for a while. They had a great start but unfortunately were juggling too many projects and didn't stay on top of the group that they had willing to work on their behalf. It takes a lot of time to organize initiatives of any level.

again, work on this scale really needs a full time person as organizer with volunteers to help but maybe down the line it it could be shown to be effective and how much time goes into it.

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I would be happy to take on the twitter account or another media account that we think could gain exposure..

Im not sure that would be possible for the Hiveblocks account but you could DM any dapp that should be posting more and ask them to take over. For example, Ecency and Peakd dont post nearly as often but VP cant give funds towards them because they already get DHF funding. Peakd for example was interested in it. They might be someone you can ask to help out.

For the discord, I dont want to manage it. Honestly. It would be more work. But if someone else wants to do it, and it works, would be great. Im cynical as in people willing to contribute for no pay. But again, this isnt something that even needs a VP blessing. Anyone can do it themselves and run it themselves.

For graphics stuff its usually Crim that does it when she has time or I think Hive creators are paid for stuff like it. Im not entirely sure.

The Inleo thing they did was a lot of work and if you remember they did pay people in the end.

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As others have said, I too think that we have spent more than enough money on initiatives that over the years have proved to be good for little more than nothing.
I think we should cut the race car, ~90% of the conferences (which really only serve to allow a few to maintain a lifestyle at the expense of the DHF) and from what is left demand 100% transparency.

Bills, for and for everything. No invoices? Then no HBD. And for those things that require a larger amount but require a confidential agreement, expose them beforehand (and in any case in a separate proposal).

The DHF and by extension valueplan should be treated a little more like a business (in search of monetary profit) and a little less (a LOT LESS) like an NGO.

Anyway, I feel that it doesn't matter, apparently this proposal will be funded anyway... It's really a discussion if the deal is signed beforehand?

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Operating like a business is exactly the point. Even a DAO must have organisation and accountability and not cart blanche to operate without structure and with impunity.

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The car only has one race which is already pre-paid. The rest are not even close to being planned or decided on yet. The entire first part of the post is about that.

I don't believe any conference will ever agree to put up their sponsorship decks publicly. I will absolutely ask them, but so far it's been a no. They will always refuse to disclose because they want to charge sponsors different amounts and hide which speaker paid what. We demand that we are treated the same as our competitors - Polkadot, Solana, and other long-term chains. Attending conferences in general isn't fun for anyone, it's very long hours of work and it's unpaid.

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The best marketing plan right now for Hive is to DEFUND THE DHF and stop all of this overspending madness.

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It's unrealistic to defund all of the DHF projects but it is to optimize them. All efforts should be on optimization.

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Yes, I agree but that isn't happening. Thus defunding sends a clear message. The only things the DHF should be funding are.

  1. Projects that operate hive that have expenses that need to be covered and can't generate revenue on their own. Training, back end development to help onboard more developers to make it easier, normal hive blockchain updates and so forth.

  2. A year max in which a project, developers or application are built on hive and then must show they are capable to generating revenue. Even if it's not enough revenue to be fully funded at least proof that it's working and people are using it and there's value there. Then some funding can be allocated again to offset until the application becomes self funded.

There are MAJOR expenses and inflation right now that are keeping hive prices down in general. A hyper inflation happening because of the HBD 15% Payout (Which IMO should be 5% - 7% max) a little lower than having hive and being an active participant in the ecosystem with curation. And negative pressure from an extremely over spend happy DHF that is showing little to no return what so ever.

No investor in their right mind is going to take hive seriously until these core things are fixed. That means no new developers and more importantly no new investors because as an investor you'd seriously be shooting yourself in the foot hive just doesn't make sense on the investor front.

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This is beyond the scope of this post or VP but I can say that right now there is a lot of work that's going to be done in relation to building out the optimization processes and general management that dapps can then leverage on their own to improve their own performance and efficiency in relation to DHF distributions. Crypticat is helping with his expertise on getting a methodology off the ground. Can't control what other people do but can give them the tools to do it better.

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I do like the sounds of that! Thank you for brining it to my attention I'll be keeping an eye out for it.

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Good evening
How do these projects actually get selected?
I'm curious as I think my @hive-woodpeckers project and my talks at a local college have on boarded more than half these projects that you fund put together.
@guiltyparties @lordbutterfly

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That's a great project, haven't seen it before. What happens with events like that is VP covers Hive merch and logistics, where there are any.

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If I was to put my project to the Value Plan in a more detailed way would they considering sponsoring it?

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by idiots....

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That's fair enough.
Unfortunately no one else replied after I asked about it so I didn't even get to find out.
I really felt I could bring some value to the whole thing.
Ah well, on we plod!

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well good luck with it! Little things like this bring so much value to hive but often get ignored

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Thanks
Currently with 2 months of hive promotion I've managed to onboard 3 users.
It's not alot admittedly but with no advertising money spent, and a solid 100$+ investment total from 2 of the onboarded, it's a great start to my new onboarding efforts

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I'm going to keep posting this data because it is important ... actual data on where crypto is being adopted says the focus on Europe is not going to get Hive where it needs to go. Chainalysis has published the leaders in crypto adoption, and with the exception of Ukraine, central Europe just isn't on the list. This is the best data in the industry, and any plan asking for hundreds of thousands of dollars over and over needs to work with the data, not against it.

The 2024 Global Adoption Index: Central & Southern Asia and Oceania (CSAO) Region Leads the World in Terms of Global Cryptocurrency Adoption

The rally car may be showing to millions of people in Europe, but WE KNOW that is not the interested audience when it comes to crypto. Hive is only 24 cents in U.S. terms, and in Euro terms it is a bit lower. That's not enough to raise interest while Bitcoin is running wild.

Furthermore, I've read through the comments. There are things in here that would give any serious investor deep pause ... so, we're going to sink massive amounts of money on a car, and say, "Oh, we can't get data from the use of that money -- the pump may be because of the car, but we can't prove it." Any serious investor can go find out how that pump happened, and it's not the car. Not at all. There is not sufficient crypto interest in Europe to account for it, and besides: we can check exchange data and know better. At this point, we are running the risk of simply looking incompetent from the point of view of serious investors, because serious crypto investors compare our plans against world crypto data, and serious investors do not accept "We're spending money on things we CAN'T EVEN TRACK IN TERMS OF RESULTS, but hey: we got some attention from Europeans, although we can't track how much either, and although hard data says that's not a market we can convert users in on the very mass level we think we may be appealing to!"

Also this: this thing reeks of dumb prejudice. We already know where Hive itself has the most interest and adoption, and this data from Chainalysis has been out for a while ... but apparently, we intend to go begging to the European mass market because it is the European market instead of doubling down on what is actually working? Again: look at the data. It is clear where crypto projects should be working to get more attention.

The 2024 Global Adoption Index: Central & Southern Asia and Oceania (CSAO) Region Leads the World in Terms of Global Cryptocurrency Adoption

Every day we spend trying to impress Europe is another day other wiser projects use the real data to get ahead of Hive where people are looking for the solutions we are providing. India, Nigeria, and Indonesia, the top three countries in crypto adoption, account for markets of 2 billion people, and Latin America has a ton of representation in the top 20 as well ... so we know where A QUARTER OF ALL HUMANITY wants access to adopt crypto and is putting major action behind it. But we want to keep driving that rally car around because the European market matters so much more ... that's not just prejudice. That's dumb prejudice.

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The car is not the central issue of this post or of 2025. Its Monaco race is already pre-paid as we had it in fiat and the others are not scheduled at all yet.

I remember your input about India before. We are pushing strong into India, there is no disagreement with you there at all. It is known that India is excellent for Hive and people are welcoming to it and to crypto in general.

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I am glad to know the others are not scheduled at all ... because maybe we can stop doing what is not working to impress people who are not interested. That's the point. And, I'm not putting the data out just for you to read. I'm putting it out so EVERYBODY can read it and reflect on all the money ValuePlan has already spent versus what SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE, according to the data. You have a colleague talking about the pump may be connected to the car -- have you spoken with said colleague about that, in the face of data any investor can find and reach the conclusion that "Gee... how have they ALREADY spent millions if that is the thinking?"

The point is simple. We already know Sucre State, Venezuela, is leading the world in adopting Hive. If I'm voting for VP to get more, I want to see that prioritized and leveraged to get Hive noticed in top-20 countries in crypto adoption in Latin America. We already know Ghana and Nigeria are both in West Africa -- I want to see us leveraging the life-saving work Hive is doing to get marketing done in the No. 2 country IN THE WORLD for crypto adoption. And since we have @krolestwo, and we KNOW KRK is putting work in, let's elevate THEM and projects like THEM for Europe, and particularly Eastern Europe, which is coming on STRONG.

Despite war and regulatory questions, crypto adoption grows in Eastern Europe driven by institutions and DeFi activity

I don't even see an honorable mention of what ValuePlan is doing in India -- the No. 1 country for crypto adoption IN THE WORLD. I have the proposal open in front of me -- there's not even a mention of it.

And here is the other point: VP does not present hard data of what was spent where, and any hint to "this is where we are getting measurable results," so the only thing possible is to look at the proposals and then at global data and say: "Here is the global trend ... so unless VP has data to the contrary, there's just no way that Hive is getting the most bang for the bucks." We keep asking for that data from VP, @guiltyparties. I've read through the comments and I see there may be something on the way, but hey: I spend my off-Hive life as an investor and real-world community asset manager looking at what people tell me they are doing and comparing it to what COLD, HARD DATA says. The best crypto data available in the English-speaking world is saying CLEARLY: VP's proposals are not aligned with best practices for taking advantage of crypto adoption. VP has not presented the data on its own work to show it is exceptional and actually beating the trends, so what are we supposed to conclude here?

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I don't have much of anything to really say because I mostly agree with you. The reason that India isn't mentioned in this proposal is because there's a hiveio post that's about to come out detailing its successes. It's a series of projects that don't all fall into this quarter and are ongoing beyond its range. The post is waiting on just one deliverable this week so we can really communicate the success.

Please take a look at the strategy post before this one if you haven't. Your input would help there.

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LISTEN ... I don't have any piece of those millions in hand to go do work Hive has funded VP to go do. I will go look at the strategy post, but understand: VP needs to account for the fact that it has been well-funded to have a proper strategy together at this point, and should long ago have presented clear accounting for what it is doing. And, what do you expect ANYONE to do to help VP strategically when you have colleagues out here telling folks "Well, the pump might have had to do with this or that, but we can't track it and say that it's not working, so let's keep doing it?" And furthermore, @guiltyparties, you've had that Chainalysis data since the last time there was a proposal. You've acknowledged that. Do I see ANY EVIDENCE that said data was used in the preparation of THIS PROPOSAL, asking for more money? No. Now, you all choose what you want to put out to ask for votes and money -- this is where we decide whether to vote for that. How many people do you think know there is a strategy post and have time to read that and say "Well, it isn't in the proposal, but ... ?"

I will go look at that post, @guiltyparties. But you already have my input, and the best data in the world that I could find. You all at VP already can know quite a lot of what you need to do moving forward, and you have been asked again, and again, and again that if VP is beating the models and getting results, then just show that!

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Further thought ... remember, @guiltyparties, you ASKED ME to go look at that post ... but before I get into those comments and tell this chain what I think, given that you have colleagues out here talking about "Even if Hive goes to 100x, we'll never be able to really say if the car did or didn't contribute," do you NOT understand that if that is true of the TOP ITEM, then everything else VP wants money for is DEEPLY SUSPECT? Do you understand that blows everything but what there are tangible real-world results on right out of the water?

If you mostly agree with me, let me give you my best suggestion: VP needs to put its real-world successes that people can see up front and double down on them, get some real accounting out here, and get on point among its members about what to record on the blockchain about whether anything it is doing is a good use of millions of dollars. On this very page, you have people running their fingers and making what would be FATAL ERRORS of public communication for a going concern without good accounting in the real world. I know the trajectory of some of the United States' most storied business collapses, and Jeff Skilling's out-of-pocket response to an analyst asking for better data is one of the best-known beginnings of the end because it destroyed any further probability of Mr. Skilling's company getting the benefit of the doubt.

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"Oh, we can't get data from the use of that money -- the pump may be because of the car, but we can't prove it."

People can pause all they want but that is the absolute truth. Its not a type of marketing that can have measurable results in terms of price action. And no, you cannot use exchange data to prove either way. Wouldnt it be wonderful if we could assign a dollar value of Hive bought based on the car existence. You can speculate though and thats fun isnt it.

But thats not even the point. The car "does what its supposed to do." It could have never done anything else. If someone thinks theres better ways to spend the money, fine, there probably is, but that doesnt take away that the car has always done what it was supposed to. Maybe people had wrong expectations, that is probably true as well.

There is not sufficient crypto interest in Europe to account for it,

I mean come on. lol. This just reeks of "dumb prejudice". What are we, market leaders, weve saturated the market? Theres no European buyers that will satisfy our glorious multi trillion chain with millions of users. 😂
If you can onboard a pub full of people on a Saturday night thats significant. Claiming theres not enough crypto interest in Europe for Hive to exploit is just silly.

Valueplan isnt even tied to any specific region and funds are spent in all parts of the world. So Europe isnt even the main focus for VP.

Latin America has a ton of representation in the top 20 as well.

How much did we spend in Latin America? I would assume nothing since all we do is try and impress Europe.

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When you have that data out we're asking for, then we will know what you have spent and where, and what does have measurable results, and then we don't have to try to figure it out ourselves. As a crypto investor, I never want to read "We don't know if it's working, but let's just keep spending money on it anyway, even though good, hard data that says the 800 million we are trying to have mass market appeal with may not be the right 800 million based on regional data." I'm not even talking about Generally Agreed Accounting Principles (GAAP) type of financials yet ... I'm not even talking about up to the level of income statements, balance sheets, forms 990 ... cash method vs. accrual ... nope. I'm not even talking about what most people getting upwards of $1 million a year have to contend with. More like, "Here's how we spent the last quarter's money, here's what we learned, here's what RESULTS we're getting in terms of what events seem to be bringing in Hivers and from where, and here's where we're going to do more of what's working with the money we need next."

Now, we see what and where you prioritize just by reading your proposals and strategy post. What goes first? What's the first of the first seven bullet points in your strategy post? There's two rally cars up there. Where was the last rally car being driven, primarily, where will the next one be driven, and about the next three -- where are those activities more likely to be located? Now, Krolestwo is much lower, community wells are much lower -- so then, what are we supposed to conclude from the order of how all that is written down about VP's priorities?

Let's go back to the Sept. 22 proposal -- what's the photo showing, @lordbutterfly? You don't have to wrack your brain -- here you go.

https://peakd.com/valueplan/@valueplan/value-plan-q4-proposal-general-information

Only two regions mentioned -- what are they and where are they? Again, you don't have to wrack your brain. We can all read. Ghana, where VP has done some of its best work, gets a photo and a mention in a tiny caption, two-thirds of the way down. AGAIN, we can see with our own eyes that although Hive is doing what governments and NGOs cannot, and that is among the most powerful potential stories on the planet for crypto, that's not at all a main concern just from the layout of the proposal. So, anyone who can read and understands order of operations is going to know.

Let's go back a bit more -- since VP did not present a half year report in 2024, let's go back to Q3!

https://peakd.com/valueplan/@valueplan/value-plan-half-year-review

Go in there and add up what was spent driving that car around versus EVERYTHING ELSE ... and then come back and tell us again how VP can't show even if Hive goes to 100x how all that expenditure helped out Hive. We can, however, tell that the last pump CERTAINLY didn't come from it -- that's called checking over with our friends on Upbit and thereabouts and understanding the entire crypto cycle for altcoins to know that. REMEMBER: Valueplan wants "quality people":

What do we mean when we speak of quality of the audience? We recognize that Hive is not the right solution for everyone. It is best for individuals who are already financially stable, literate, have an interest in technology, have a business perhaps, and are able to positively contribute to the ecosystem.

I'm one of those, living in the No. 4 country in the world for crypto adoption and the No. 1 richest, and I'm telling you: there's no way, given the best crypto data in the English-speaking world about crypto adoption, that anyone like me who can read and make decisions based on hard data is going to look at VP and then look at global crypto data and say, "Wow -- they are on top of who is doing the darn thing in the crypto world -- let's put another $1M there in 2025!" See for yourself.

https://www.chainalysis.com/blog/2024-global-crypto-adoption-index/#top-countries

Now, VP can fix this. Prioritizing what we see is working can help. Prioritizing what is working in the world -- India, Nigeria (success in Ghana can be leveraged there), Indonesia, the U.S. and Vietnam are your top five countries in the world for crypto adoption, and the next 15 are in the data -- can help. Now if VP has data that says cars and conferences in countries primarily outside the top 20 are pulling people in, great -- put it out there. Chainalysis doesn't know everything -- maybe VP is beating the odds! For that matter, if VP has data about whatever is working, put it forth and be praised! Then double down on what you know is getting VP and Hive good results, and be praised and ask for even more money next time after trimming out everything you cannot show good results for. Do that and nobody has a problem, @lordbutterfly.

But you know, investors read comments as well as proposals and also look back in the VP main page. Is there a half-year report for 2024? No. Are there people asking and asking and asking for transparency all over the place? Yes. Is it forthcoming? No. Are you in comments letting everyone know that at least some things the community is paying for don't even have measurable results? Yes. Does a simple read of where the money is going and how the proposals are organized say VP is not prioritizing the right places on earth, in light of global data? Yes. This is not sour grapes -- as the type of "quality people" VP said in September that it thinks are best, I don't mind if VP gets $105K to finish this year or $1 million next as long as we can all see Hive getting good results from it and clear, accountable stewardship. That's not too much to ask for a project getting a $1M run rate a year, is it?

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You dumped a lot of text, went all over the place, which pretty much obfuscated your response to the factual statement I made about certain types of marketing not being able to have measurable results in Hive price action.... here it is...

Are you in comments letting everyone know that at least some things the community is paying for don't even have measurable results?

I am in the comments letting people know that. That is something that people should have known already and those that approved the car should have been aware of it.

"Wow -- they are on top of who is doing the darn thing in the crypto world -- let's put another $1M there in 2025!"

And this is just speculation again. Again dodging the made points.

VP mostly deals with incoming requests for funding. Some of us in VP have our ideas on what should be tried but there is no overarching strategy or active effort to develop it. People are stretched as it is, nobody wants to work for free, you cant find people to even write a single post for Hive, do anything really, without pay, so its basically on a handful of people that were stupid enough to not get paid carry all of the burden.

If there is no valid funding requests from US or India, or Ukraine, whatever, then there will not be VP expenditure there.

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I'll keep it short then and make it easy: do things that are measurable, leave the rest alone, and give solid accounting for what you do. Your workload would be less, and you would have fewer people asking ten thousand questions and bringing in their own data to show why what you are doing doesn't seem to be working. VP is running $1M per year on a project whose market cap is under $120 million. That needs to be justified. If I went to the store for you for $10, you are getting a receipt and change and an explanation if something is out of the expected norm. VP needs to come up to that basic standard.

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do things that are measurable, leave the rest alone, and give solid accounting for what you do.

I do only do things that are measurable. Car was something that was a thing before I was added into VP and it was clear from first moment what kind of marketing that is.
Vibes is easily measurable. Conference im doing as well. Hivefest is clear as well. The social media managers are all straight forward with measurable results.

asking ten thousand questions

People have complaints which are valid and then you have attacks, trolling and threatening. Those that ask specific questions will have them answered, those that start accusing me personally of illegal activity will get a clear treatment.

If I went to the store for you for $10, you are getting a receipt and change and an explanation if something is out of the expected norm.

Ask specific explanations and ill give them. If you go broad and cover a 100 things I cannot give you those answers. VP isnt a structured system. Its simply responding to request for funding based on judgement of project managers.
I did not approve the car so you would have to ask who did and what the thought process was.

Me you can ask about Hivefest, Vibes, Social managers and the upcoming conference and how VSC is tied to it.
I did not found VP, I joined because I was asked to volunteer and help with things. I refused a few times precisely because I didnt want to deal with stuff like this here.
If you want a structured system with a somewhat corporate structure then ask for VP managers to get paid.

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If you want a structured system with a somewhat corporate structure then ask for VP managers to get paid.

No, @lordbutterfly ... as someone who works in the real world with a volunteer team to manage community assets worth more than Hive's present market cap, just NO. Not being paid cannot be the reason. It is terrifying to consider it would even be offered as a justification for not having structure in place. I can understand being overworked and not paid and frustrated ... been there, done that too ... but a lack of structure is what gets us to these situations as you have to deal with now. Since you are not the founder of VP, I can accept that the lack of structure is not your doing -- but since you are a noted leader, it is your responsibility now with your colleagues. You have some of Hive's brightest minds -- @blocktrades used to run the ONLY exchange I trusted my Steem and my Hive to, and frankly, nothing has been quite as good since -- so, I know you have team members who understand what is required. Blocktrades still keeps us up on his activities regularly, and it is something that is greatly appreciated.

I personally think that Vibes and HiveFest are wonderful programs ... in the case of Vibes I can see the growth and it is fairly easy to track it. I would love to see that presented in proposals so we can all see the growth. Hivefest: same thing. Social managers I would love to know more about, and again: I would love to see those measureables. I am telling you straight up, as someone who approves a run rate bigger than VP's ask every month: when proposals begin to include the measureables and the good results up front so people can see, a lot of the stress you have will go away. I'm dropping you a big hint on better structure: put the measureables up front, and leave the rest alone for a while. Not everyone is going to like all of the measurables -- somehow, community wells seem to be highly controversial with some -- but that's something anyone can confirm is working and can be leveraged for greater exposure to Hive -- and in fact, the documentary is a form of publicity and leverage. KRK -- again, measurable, clearly getting things done.

Again, I don't have a problem with VP getting $105K more and $1M more next year, as long as we get to see the money being spent well, with good measurables. There are a lot of things VP does that are magnificent, and I would love to see them continue. A lot of us just need to see better accounting and transparency, and some sense of what VP is doing aligning with best global data on crypto adoption. I'm sure that there are "quality people" from India, Nigeria, and Indonesia who would be delighted to work with VP once the transparency issues are cleared up -- in fact I saw @sanjeevm on the VP strategy post, and @guiltyparties has already confirmed India as an area of work. I do not know as many members of the Nigerian community on Hive as I do the Ghanaian because @collinz and @mcsamm stand out, but I do know one of Indonesia's outstanding representatives: @macchiata. Believe it or not, using the data on where to promote will make your life easier -- that's two billion people to work with who want what Hive offers. I of course am from country No. 4, where there are 50M-100M crypto users out of a population of 330M, so many that they may have tipped the election toward Mr. Trump. Paying attention to those top 4 -- or, anywhere feasible in the top 20 -- will give VP success after success after success, and accounting for steady success is a lot more fun.

But, there is no way around the questions about where the funds are going and have gone until the questions are answered. Not everyone will be satisfied, but a step toward what was done in 2023 with both a half-year and closing year report would be a good start. Another good start: put out good answers for at least Q4 this year before you ask for more Q1 money. And, if there are things that have gone wrong, that transparency will give VP room to say, if necessary, "There was an irregularity here. We are putting it out with our explanation BEFORE YOU HAVE TO ASK, and here is how we are resolving it and working to avoid similar situations in future."

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it is your responsibility now with your colleagues.

Nope. VP deals with incoming requests for funding from the community. Developing any broader strategy is not in the description nor is in the description who has what title and what responsibility beyond key holders.
It can happen but its not in "job" description.

Im responsible for the stuff I receive funding for and I deliver on that.
You do not get to tell anyone what responsibility they should have. You do not get to add more work on top of whats being done. And im not trying to be mean here.

Not being paid cannot be the reason.

It is absolutely the reason. All the basics are very much covered but beyond that, what you are definitely hinting at, will not be done. We each jump in with what we have time for. There is no work allocation based on specific regions or specific job descriptions or specific marketing type. Its very much loose in that department. Sure, 1 person will do more of some stuff. For example Crim with exchanges but thats simply because how it is.

a lot of the stress you have will go away

I have no stress at all. Theres a certain type of people I have a problem with but thats a recurring problem. lol

The rest of it ....

Again youre piling on expectations. The community comes to VP with funding requests. If there is US based funding requests, fine. If there is Indian (like the hackathon, fine as well.
Do not ask us to develop a marketing strategy for Hive.
I have my own personal strategy and approach that im working on that differs from current strategies but is based on my own initiative for my side of projects. VP cannot be asked to do anything more than respond to funding requests from the community. It may deliver more, but it cannot be asked more.

But, there is no way around the questions about where the funds are going and have gone until the questions are answered.

Again. What funding? If wer discussing things here then be specific as to what funding you want to know about. I can deliver an answer for my side. I do not deal with VZ stuff or India, etc.

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So, let me see if I understand ... VP is actually leaderless, and you are each doing what you are best at, and none of you takes responsibility for what the others do? I've seen models like this. Occupy Wall Street worked like this for a while. Of course, no idea what their run rate was because they didn't have a DHF ... but also, they didn't last all that long, either ... that's a tough model to sustain. Black Lives Matter Global Foundation tried that model as well ... about $90 million worth ... and its prominent people are likely to be hounded for the rest of their lives while the foundation has now become a byword and epithet for the right wing to shut down anything good that could have been done in that whole movement.

Now, as a practical matter ... when you all put together a proposal, can you each write down what you know about so the unified presentation has it all? For example, Vibes: what was spent where, and results achieved. Whoever does the car: maybe they can share their data. If each of you does that, the questions are answered, because it should sum to whatever VP asked for, and each of you knows how well things worked that you did. I do agree with you that Vibes, for example, is quite measureable -- can you each write that down for the proposals? Again, in 2023, there's a half-year and quantitative review ... I know VP can, actually, so I'm not seeing why it is such a problem. You could even just use headers in each proposal, and everyone puts their stuff under their portion. That way, people could understand how it works and who is responsible for what, and make better informed decisions.

One more practical matter ... I understand human beings hate being told "no," but do understand: VP is being told no every time one more person reads the increasing volume of posts against it and votes the Return Proposal. Human nature being what it is, if the Return Proposal does not have sufficient power to enact the NO, that NO eventually will rise to a pitch with the other unhappiness around Hive and its leadership in the crypto world that the NO will damage the chain's reputation. That will counter pro-adoption measures, profoundly, and I would think all of us want to avoid that.

Again, I'm not talking about VP doing Generally Accepted Accounting Principals (GAAP) type of accounting. Can VP get back to half-year and quantitative reviews, though? Can each of you just write down what you are responsible for and explain the structure that you do have so we know to ask you about Vibes and not about the car, and so we ask the person who takes care of the car about the car and not about Hivefest -- do you see what I am getting at?

I have been near the edge of burnout myself as a volunteer ... on a human level I can certainly understand the need to back up from that edge. Just understand, though ... "the work cannot be optimal, but hand us another $105K anyway, and then next year ..." OK. If that's the case, that's the case. I accept that your perspective is your perspective, and I appreciate your sharing so that I can have more reasonable expectations. I have shared what I would need to see to support VP -- see the previous paragraph for the simplest iteration -- as well.

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VP is actually leaderless, and you are each doing what you are best at, and none of you takes responsibility for what the others do?

Projects are proposed, most times if theyre bigger large stakehodlers will approve them. There will be discussions. A leader that decides everything? No.
Its mostly about "getting a second or third opinion" to be sure. At least for me.

For example, Vibes: what was spent where, and results achieved.

For Vibes I dont actually need to share where what was spent in addition to whats shown already. Its all in my wallet and all in my blog. Each transaction i got was then forwarded to winning musician. So its extremely easy to find it, theres a filter and each memo contains winning week and then for each week there is a post.

There can absolutely be no more accountability than that. Both visible in my wallet and each musician is named with how much they won each week.

but do understand: VP is being told no every time one more person reads the increasing volume of posts against it

VP proposals have very high support. I would never make the conclusion that the community opposes it. I can give you at least 500 people by name that love it and barely a dozen that are extremely loud with hate.

Can each of you just write down what you are responsible for and explain the structure that you do have so we know to ask you about Vibes

You have lists for who got what money. You can even find it here in comments. GP mentioned it here in post. Its matter of public record. he shares whats being done in these updates. I have shared it many times what I do. VP outgoing transactions show who got what and when.
This isnt something anyone is trying to hide or that its possible to even hide if tried. No legacy business has their transactions out in the open like this where you know who got it, for what and how much.
Maybe thats a problem. Knowing so much that some can spin narratives and fantastic scenarios.

"the work cannot be optimal, but hand us another $105K anyway, and then next year ..."

Optimal in what way? Who would even presume that VP could ever provide work as optimal as any well funded and oiled corporate structure. Employees with 8 hour work days with full focus at task. Imagine what could be done? That doesnt mean VP functions terribly for what it is. But sure as hell isnt working as well as it can.

Most of the stuff is based around funding requests and the work not being optimal means its slow, sometimes extremely, all opportunities arent able to be explored, you have times when I have to cover stuff out of pocket since VP runs on empty before requesting funding again.
Its all a matter of being stretched thin and this not being a real job. Now, does that mean that a bad project will be funded because of it that would not be otherwise. I cant answer that. Would SWC be funded anyway? Would boreholes? I dont know. If I was in charge id probably defund half this stuff.
But again. "Someone in charge"... decentralized community like Hive... that would probably not work.

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I know that VP is well supported, and there are a lot of people who love many of its initiatives -- for good reason. I personally love quite a lot of it myself. But we also know the key holders account for much of the HP needed to clear the Return Proposal, too ... and while we cannot say the majority of the community opposes it, taking support for granted is also a danger to be avoided as well.

I think what is most unnerving is the assumption that decentralization is being interpreted as not only to mean no one is "in charge," but also, no one is "ultimately responsible" or "ultimately accountable," VP could indeed be funding a bad project, but ...

Now, does that mean that a bad project will be funded because of it that would not be otherwise. I cant answer that.

And this is precisely what some have been saying ... how is VP supposed to prevent bad actors from running fraud if this is the perspective? Is there no one with time or energy for loss and fraud prevention?

You are also not quite right about legacy businesses. As someone who works in non-profit as well as for-profit, I can tell you: for non-profits there are detailed audits and there are Form-990s for the public, and every spend has to be accounted for anytime a member of the public asks. Vendor lists sometimes have to made publicly available as well. For publicly held companies, there are those big quarterly filings -- now, every vendor transaction may not be there, but most major interactions are picked up because income statements and supporting documents account for that. I keep mentioning Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) for a reason. Even if that cannot be enacted for VP, you might want to consider, when you have time, how legacy businesses actually do communicate what they are doing ... and perhaps what happens when transparency is lost for too long, and then people get up in arms and start digging around and talking in wider circles. As someone who once upon a time overcame a billion-dollar company and all its paper shredding and helped run it clear out of town save for a tiny toehold, anything VP and Hive can do to avoid those kinds of scenarios will be a blessing.

Its all a matter of being stretched thin and this not being a real job.

But that $1M VP handles is real money, though, affecting real lives in the real world. I suppose I could consider my own volunteer involvement in a slightly larger asset set in my home city "not a real job" ... but had I been willing to be that hands off in my mind, that asset set, and all the benefits to the real people connected to it, would have been lost. I learned from that, that my connection to the reality of the job was directly connected to the responsibility I chose to take, not commanded of me from above -- because belief and dedication come from within. I know that you have belief and dedication enough in what you are responsible for in VP to keep it going even out of your own pocket -- that seems pretty real to me. Don't sell your good work short, @lordbutterfly ... I persist in saying the more clarity there is about it, and the easier it is for people to see, the better!

But if you are as stretched as far as you personally can go, that I cannot argue with. I cannot argue with the limits of your humanity. That is not my intent.

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taking support for granted is also a danger to be avoided as well.

Sure.

I think what is most unnerving is the assumption that decentralization is being interpreted as not only to mean no one is "in charge," but also, no one is "ultimately responsible" or "ultimately accountable,

Uh yes. I completely agree but I also know how people think here. I can probably give you a bunch of scenarios as to why there is no way whatsoever this would work here. A list a mile long.

Is there no one with time or energy for loss and fraud prevention?

Projects are vetted. Does that mean fraud wont happen? No. But so far the only thing I had a major problem with was SWC. Besides that I havent yet seen anything that warrants going to red alert over.
Its not about not having time or energy. When talking time and energy, for example it would mean that a project that could possibly happen inside 2-3 days, might take 2 weeks instead. Doesnt mean making sure the recipient isnt fraudulent wont happen.

But that $1M VP handles is real money, though...

which does not change the fact of what I said above. There is trying your best and contributing and then there is being "hands off". By the shere fact wanting to contribute and doing whats been done, there is no hands off mindset here. The best solution is that if VP handles this money then it should be a "real job" otherwise those that do the work cannot be expected to optimally function to the level of someone doing the same work elsewhere while that other person is receiving payment. Results may vary but expectations cant be the same.

And honestly this is a pointless discussion. Its volunteering, optimal performance imo an obvious thing and I dont see anyone ever getting paid for this type of work here. So really its pointless talking about it. Its not programming or coding.

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The best solution is that if VP handles this money then it should be a "real job" otherwise those that do the work cannot be expected to optimally function to the level of someone doing the same work elsewhere while that other person is receiving payment. Results may vary but expectations cant be the same.

We don't know the same people in the world, @lordbutterfly ... I know volunteers whose dedication exceeds anything money could ever pay for, and who OUTWORK those who clock in and clock out because they see value higher than the money amount. But if this is unreasonable here on Hive, at least relative to VP, OK. I will take that for what it is. Whole different question why it can't be paid work, too ... but you are right: as things are, payroll is not possible!

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I know volunteers whose dedication exceeds anything money could ever pay for,

Glorified by shere fact they do volunteer work and I highly doubt they clock in long hours consistently. Great that you have that experience.

Ive never seen someone that did 30 mins of volunteer work ever be told: "Well, come on, it was only 30 mins."
But ive heard: "omg youre amazing. you worked so hard, youre such a good person."

My experience is that is not true even in the slightest and it would be preposterous to even suggest that doing free work can in any way compare to paid work in effectiveness.

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Like I said, @lordbutterfly ... we live in different worlds. Different values. I find your perspective almost as difficult to believe as you find mine.

I leave you with the thought that the volunteers with the project bigger than Hive, with their viewpoint, have INCREASED the value of the assets in ten years, although in fairness, not being in crypto with its cycles helps, and being in a city that rarely has drops in certain key sectors of the economy helps. But the work that was put in sits out like gold in the city's middle skyline, and is a model for the state doing more along the same line to benefit many thousands and tens of thousands more people.

When I think of Hive, I tend to think of it like that in the crypto world, and even with some of the things VP supports, I see that standout legacy quality. The way Vibes and Hivefest have changed people's lives ... that's got that quality. The way community boreholes are fresh water that lasts and lasts... that's got that quality. Good accounting -- again, not talking about GAAP, but the things VP did in 2023 as a base standard -- is a good way to tell a legacy story, too. Just a thought for the year-end wrap up and inevitable Q1 proposal time period.

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If Vibes didnt bring in users and generate views and attention outside Hive it would not exist, simple as that. Any good it does for people is a consequence of that. If it stops doing that, I will be the first to cut it. And mind you, once our entries dropped from 500 per week to 200 (as a consequence of Hive price going down from 50 cents) it did cross my mind. But then ofc I adjusted some things to pull more value from community itself with the promo videos they do that often generate 1000-6000 views per video.

And I can tell you 100% that it is not run optimally. Theres so much more that could be done with it but its not possible precisely due to it being voluntary work and putting in work as if it was a full time job is not realistic or possible.

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Again, @lordbutterfly ... we live in different worlds. I have read enough proposals from VP and enough comments from you to know that the people and the life change good that VP is doing do not matter one bit -- it's just there for the public relations. I knew that. I was waiting for you to say it, and you have. I know that is true for the community wells as well, because VP is clear on who it really wants. Remember how this conversation started? Remember the proposal from September 22, and how the proposal describes who is best for Hive? Y'all do not want the people you have to play ball with for now. Y'all want those higher-net worth business-owning individuals that you describe here ...

What do we mean when we speak of quality of the audience? We recognize that Hive is not the right solution for everyone. It is best for individuals who are already financially stable, literate, have an interest in technology, have a business perhaps, and are able to positively contribute to the ecosystem.

And like I said, that same proposal suggests where VP thinks most of those people are from ... despite the fact that they are ALSO not motivated with Hive below 50 cents ... but we know that from the global data already about who actually is the most motivated to adopt crypto.

I don't know if you have studied the crypto cycle at all ... but if you ever do, along with the crypto adoption data at hand, you will know why I spent a day or so, talking about the values that I have, for the sake of Hive, long-term. Being ready at every moment to throw the kind of people under the bus who carried the chain through the last bear may "work" in 2024 and perhaps through 2025 because of the cycle itself. But, 2026 through half of 2028 will likely be a different story if the last three cycles are any indication ... and the level of hard feelings about Hive, and the accusations, will be running up all the while. As someone who knows what it takes to manage a 75-year legacy bigger than Hive itself, I just happen to know that short-term "extracting value" thinking does not generally lead to good long-term results.

But we live in different worlds ... different values, different goals, different experiences. I fully understand where you stand.

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and the life change good that VP is doing do not matter one bit.

No. Ofc it matters. Who said it doesnt matter? There is a give and take. Now this is just my view of things and Ive disagreed with other people in VP over it but I dont think there is enough "give" from a few of these projects and theyre not getting enough attention for what theyre receiving and I would personally cut them. There needs to be a reciprocity because Hive isnt a charity as many think.
And thats good because a system where all parties can receive value is a well functioning system.
If the boreholes generated any significant amount of attention and gotten us significant exposure id fly out to Ghana and go dig them water wells myself by hand.

Y'all do not want the people you have to play ball with for now. Y'all want those higher-net worth business-owning individuals that you describe here ...

Look. Having more users is great. I want more people here as well but id take 1 high networth individual that will commit his time and money to Hive over the whole user base of Hamster Combat for example, because I know what Hamster Combat users are about. Theres your regional focus and targeting high adoption areas.
There is a huge difference between builders and those that are simply looking to extract value. And Im not just talking about from the economic sense. Theres also a third group of user id love to get here but theyre so tiny in % in my view and our dapps simply dont offer what would satisfy them.

ALSO not motivated with Hive below 50 cents ... but we know that from the global data already about who actually is the most motivated to adopt crypto.

Guess theyre not as motivated under 50 cents.

Being ready at every moment to throw the kind of people under the bus who carried the chain through the last bear may "work" in 2024 and perhaps through 2025 because of the cycle itself.

No No No.. Lets not kid ourselves here. People who carried this chain are very well known. We dont get to point at a group and say they "carried the chain" simply because they showed up. Its very clear whats required to "carry a chain". Posting every day is not it.

and the level of hard feelings about Hive, and the accusations, will be running up all the while.

And that is why I will take 1 high net worth individual over every single user that is gone once the price dumps a bit, every single complainer over downvotes, that is a thorn in the side of those actually putting in work every day to make something of this place.
I guess Hive seems to be REQUIRED to give and give, ask for no reciprocity and take shit while giving some more.

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every single complainer over downvotes, that is a thorn in the side of those actually putting in work every day to make something of this place.

And we will keep on working!

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Just to go into it a bit more as I maybe didnt clarify it best in prior comment.

No single person will do all of the specific type of work, because the work load would be extremely high. So for example, wer all doing outreach for certain things. Crim does outreach for stuff she does. I do outreach for things i do. GP does it. Crim talks to exchanges. Ill be talking to exchanges in regards to a specific project here. GP will talk to some conferences, ill talk to others. Crim will go to some conferences, im going now to one. So its kinda who can grab what.

When I say that the structure you hint at is not possible, its precisely because there is no pay and its not a real job. Its voluntary work thats extremely wide in scope, with an extremely limited number of people doing it, and no one can be asked (required) to do anything that they do not volunteer for. They will try their best to do so if asked, though.

Time available and burnout is a real thing and beyond trying to cover all the needs this chain has, maintaining burnout is a must. So you simply cannot allocate work in a way that would be optimal. That is the structure im talking about. And again because of this, I can only speak for how I see things. I cannot guarantee others share my view.

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Alright! the only thing I'm gonna say here is: that I read this post from beginning to end and I have read each & every single comment so far too.

And I'm still here wondering where the freaking hell I and everyone else finally is gonna be able to watch the goddamn Freechain documentary which from three years now, they sold us the idea that it would be a "piece of art" that everyone in the world would see, and after that, undoubtedly it would attract thousands of rich investors, hundreds of skilled developers and millions of new users to the Hive blockchain catapulting its token into the stratosphere and beyond all around the crypto markets.

¿When? ¿Huh?

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I don't need to repeat that Valueplan is wasting money specifically. But I'd like to add that spending money on brand awareness is useless in general. If advertising worked, Polkadot would be in the top 10. We need to focus, and I'd like to focus on three issues:

  1. The name Hive is not distinctive enough. I made a proposal to rebrand without having to rename every piece of infrastructure.

  2. We need to give people a reason to remain active. In particular, we need to give people a reason to read Hive, not just to post. I hate Twitter, but it's where relevant discourse about politics and crypto takes place. Then I come here to read a boring fitness report from someone who barely leaves the house, with a photo of some random trash (to use myself as an example and avoid hurting anyone else's feelings). Making Hive worthwhile to read requires less focus on original content and more focus on sharing news and entertainment. I did a trial run of both with @newforyou and @memedump, but don't expect too much - I don't even manage to keep blogging regularly on my personal account. There's someone on dBuzz I don't want to single out who shares multiple YouTube videos every day about gaming and related technology, adding a short comment. That's the kind of posting I find useful, even when I rarely watch the videos. It's an example of useful curation (voting is not curation).

  3. We need to onboard organizations which have a lot of content to share from a particular point of view: charities, tourist boards, e-commerce stores, lobby and activist groups, unions, religious organizations, government agencies, sports clubs, etc. There's a beautiful synergy here: they can buy attention here in a more natural way than via ads, while we receive information about social issues which might be ignored by the mainstream media. I've said this before, and did nothing about it because it would require a lot of handholding and people skills.

Finally, there's a lot of talk about the UI as an obstacle, but people will readily use a shitty interface like Amazon.com or Microsoft Excel when it's useful to them. The two top cryptocurrencies are popular despite usability horrors like a 10-minute average blocktime or your tokens not showing up in Metamask automatically. So that's one thing we should not focus on.

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We ask, why doesn't anyone do anything about these bad downvotes on Hive?

Very alarming situation on Hive: Misuse of power, fake interactions, and abuse of downvoting we've spoken up about the abuse of power on Hive, only to be downvoted and spoken to poorly.

Themarkymark and others are misusing their power, with Blocktrades delegating Hive power to Buildawhale and Usainvote.

The marky mark need drugs

livinguktaiwan (79)in HiveFest • 2 days ago
He would never survive an hour at HiveFest now 🔪🔪🔪

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@livinguktaiwan/re-slobberchops-skc63a

https://hive.blog/hive-106258/@slobberchops/re-livinguktaiwan-skc5h1

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We want to address the issue of downvoting. It has caused pain to many people, and we want to make sure it doesn't happen again reply to @jacobtothe

On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out

We hope that those who genuinely care about Hive will reconsider their actions, as continuing down this path could inadvertently harm innocent users who are unaware of these issues

lol the Marky mark keeps dreaming

There's been a notable increase in frustration and concern among many users

Reply 2 @crimsonclad You may consider yourself clever

Reply to @crimsonclad

Consider revising the value plan, as it's not providing significant benefits to HIVE

The Value Plan, as it stands, seems to be a one-sided relationship with the HIVE platform, where the benefits are one-way

Actions indeed speak louder than words, a fact we've all observed individuals may talk a good game, a whole lot of shit, but their actions often expose their genuine nature LOL

We consider it unwise to engage in harmful actions, even if you think you can escape the repercussions

https://hive.blog/politics/@jacobtothe/re-bpcvoter1-shjdc8

The Hive Police aka Hivewatchers, are the real heroes of Hive LOL, aren't they?

Feast your eyes on Hive's trending page, what a load of trash

LoL it's the Hivewatchers Hive Police, dishing out orders like a bakery LOL! Folks, do what you want with your Hive power, just as you please. And you, Hivewatchers, downvote away, but remember, judgment day's coming

Harry fam We're just here, laughing at the shenanigans on Hive! Sure, our content's getting downvoted, but hey, it's all part of the game LOL

https://hive.blog/hive-158694/@hivewatchers/shhnhs

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https://hive.blog/hivewatchers/@bpcvoter/shqkqc

On Hive, there's a user who frequently burns a significant amount of Hive LOL with his own accounts

How To Fool An Entire Population

it's so, so concerning to see Blocktrades delegating 2+ million Hive power to Buildawhale, and Buildawhale is downvoting legitimate content

We began sharing factual information following unwarranted downvotes on Hive it's all in the transactions

Upon examining our posts, you will notice they have been downvoted, and we've been labeled as scammers and spammers, which we find amusing. We consistently share new content

Once again, we ask why is our legit content being downvoted on Hive and what is the reason behind it. Hivewatchers ADM spaminator steemcleaners guiltyparties logic

We have Hive witnesses farming Hive, self-voting, operating comment farms, and self-funding projects with community resources

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@blockheadgames/activities

https://peakd.com/@hiveauctions/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@meritocracy/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

https://peakd.com/@jacobtothe/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@leovoter/activities

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@upmyvote/activities

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

https://peakd.com/@punkteam/activities

Let's delve into the Builda whale farm on the Hive, Gogreenbuddy, who is also colloquially known as the Marky mark USAINVOTE UPMYVOTE IPROMOTE and 100's more if not thousands

Buildawhale farm

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https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

The Marky mark

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Total HBD: 0.000
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https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

Usainvote

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Time loaded: Jul 20, 2024
Total HP: 7,026.082
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@usainvote/activities

Apeminingclub

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Time loaded: Jul 22, 2024
Total HP: 28.306
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@apeminingclub/activities

Gogreenbuddy

Curation Rewards

Total rewards according to loaded activities and filters
Time loaded: Jul 15, 2024
Total HP: 1,960.063
Total HBD: 0.000
Total HIVE: 0.000

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

#thedarksideofhive

https://www.publish0x.com/the-dark-side-of-hive

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/who-is-cashing-out

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/we-exposed-the-buildawhale-comment-and-its-unfortunate-to-note-that-the-issue-persists-we-have-observed-that-this-individual-i

https://www.bilpcoin.com/undefined/@bpcvoter1/zagi

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/two-years-ago

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/@themarkymark/activities

https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/activities

https://peakd.com/@gogreenbuddy/activities

I'm serious, turn yourself in before you turn postal. Get the help you need. No one should suffer like this.

https://peakd.com/inleo/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-skbzej

Downvoters we've got to ask, what's the joy in downvoting, huh? It just shows how down in the dumps you are! Remember, Themarkymark himself has been downvoted in the past

Funny seeing how much power a Hiver with mental health issues wields! And talk about support, Blocktrades is like his trusty sidekick LOL

Many question the impact of downvoting and the role of certain Top Hivers, including Themarkymark who abuses his power, many express disappointment about the lack of response from those in positions of authority NO HELP.

Withdraw vesting from @poshbot to @ipromote0.921 HIVE
Oct 27, 2021

https://peakd.com/@ipromote/wallet

https://peakd.com/bpc/@bpcvoter2/the-hive-police-are-doing-a-disservice-to-the-hive-community-by-farming-hive-and-turning-a-blind-eye-to-the-real-spammers-and

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter2/https-peakd-com-themarkymark-activities-they-are-are-now-trying-to-hide-to-builda-whale-curation-rewards-lol

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-believe-many-top-hivers-are-struggling-with-mental-health-issues-addiction-and-personal-problems

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/downvotes-on-hive-should-be-used-for-their-intended-purpose-not-as-a-tool-for-the-hive-whales-to-abuse-or-manipulate

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/we-have-made-it-clear-that-if-the-downvoting-continues-bilpcoin-and-others-are-prepared-to-delve-deeper-and-share-more

https://peakd.com/hive-187189/@bpcvoter3/hello-community-did-you-know-alpha-account-belongs-to-blocktrades-wife-wtf

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/we-started-investigating-after-being-wrongly-downvoted-we-spoke-with-hive-blurt-steem-users-and-others-who-are-following-our

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@bpcvoter3/many-hive-community-members-are-expressing-their-concerns-about-the-downvoting-trend-which-we-and-they-believe-is-detrimental-to

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-funny-how-you-can-try-to-lie-on-hive-where-every-transaction-is-public-to-all-which-makes-it-quite-dumb-to-deny-or-deflect

https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/it-s-quite-funny-to-observe-the-behavior-of-individuals-when-they-find-themselves-in-a-situation-where-their-actions-are-exposed

Buildawhale downvoting good content, self-voting comments powering down funds that are then sent to Ipromote and then the alpha account controlled by Blocktrades' wife doesn't look good and raises questions about the transparency and fairness of Hive.

https://www.reddit.com/r/stoptheabuseonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhalefarmonhive

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buildawhale

https://www.reddit.com/r/Thedarksideofhive

https://hive.blog/created/bpc

https://peakd.com/created/bilpcoin

https://ecency.com/created/bilpcoin

https://www.bilpcoin.com/created

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STOP THE ABUSE !DOOK STOP THE SMOKING !WEED STOP THE #BUILDAWHALEFARM #BUILDAWHALESCAM @GOGREENBUDDY !LOL 2

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